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Re: Windows Thunderbird OAuth2 works for Google Accounts - but what for Android/iOS?

From	Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject	Re: Windows Thunderbird OAuth2 works for Google Accounts - but what for Android/iOS?
Date	2022-06-21 15:24 +0100
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Chris wrote:

>> This is _great_ information which seems to indicate that the Thunderbird
>> team has acquired the K-9 source
> 
> There's nothing to acquire K-9 is an open source application. Everyone has
> access to source code. 

Agreed it's open source under thundernest on github (for one location):
 <https://github.com/thundernest/k-9>

I will simply repeat verbatim what the article said regarding that word:
 "According to Thunderbird's Jason Evangelho, the Thunderbird team 
  *has acquired the source code and naming rights to K-9 Mail*. K-9 Mail
  project maintainer Christian Ketterer (who goes by "cketti" in the OSS
  community) will join the Thunderbird team, and over time, K-9 Mail will
  become Thunderbird for Android."

While I'm no lawyer, it seems (from that anyway) that there's still
"something" to _acquire_ in the legal sense, if that article is accurate.

>> and will essentially port Thunderbird to
>> Android via that K-9 source code and key personnel.
> 
> My guess is they're simply working to make K-9 to have the look and feel of
> thunderbird. 

Here is the Thunderbird blog article on the topic.
 *Our Plans For Thunderbird On Android*
 <https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/revealed-thunderbird-on-android-plans-k9/>
 "Ultimately, K-9 Mail will transform into Thunderbird on Android.
  That means the name itself will change and adopt Thunderbird branding.
  Before that happens, we need to reach certain development milestones 
  that will bring K-9 Mail into alignment with Thunderbird's feature set
  and visual appearance."

Their K-9/TB-A roadmap lists:
 * Account setup using Thunderbird account auto-configuration.
 * Improved folder management.
 * Support for message filters.
 * Syncing between desktop and mobile Thunderbird

Where I'm most interested in an OAuth2 capable MUA, which I "assume" the
first bullet item indicates for K-9 Mail (as 2FA/2SV is, IMHO, a sham).

There's an FAQ but it's pretty light on the details, e.g., I didn't see any
mention of the newsreader ported to Android, but maybe it's in the works.
 <https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/faq-thunderbird-mobile-and-k-9-mail/>

>> The only problem as I see it with K9 mail today, is the lack of OAuth2.
>> 
>> While most people don't mind giving out their phone number permanently to
>> Google, I refuse to use 2FA/2SV which means OAuth is all that's left.
> 
> There's no need to provide a phone number for 2FA.

What's the second (factor/step) then for most users who don't use special
hardware and who only have the email address they're trying to log into?
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Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information.

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