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Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

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On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:36:50 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > 2.  I'm sure that I'm looking at the download flows from my ISP as the
> > ratio of the octets / bytes between the two flows is generally
> > something like 10 to 1.   I'm sure that I am not uploading 10 times
> > (or even the same number) of bytes  as I am downloading.  (For
> > example, I rarely upload anything, and rarely have  attachments to
> > emails...)
> 
> I don't quite follow this one.  Do you mean that you're seeing something
> like

Well, the first time I read your post (the one this responded to, I got the 
(mistaken, I think) impression that you thought I had the in and out 
directions backwards, so I was trying to clarify.

If I'm not mistaken again, I believe we both agree that:

Downloads from Earthlink: WAN in / LAN out
Uploads to Earthlink: WAN out / LAN in

> >  - "Downloading" (WAN_IN / LAN_OUT) == 10 bytes
>  - "Uploading" (LAN_IN / WAN_OUT) == 100 bytes

Yes we definitely agree.

By talking about the 10 to 1 ratio, I was trying to confirm that I had the 
directions correct, in other words, using your example, my situation is:

- "Downloading" (WAN_IN / LAN_OUT) == 100 bytes
- "Uploading" (LAN_IN / WAN_OUT) == 10 bytes

> If you (or anyone in the house) play games, then the traffic (at least
> for the game) will be about equal.

My son does play one online game, "Words with Friends" on a tablet--but, it is 
nothing like a--hmm, what do they call them--3rd person shooter(??)--it is 
text oriented--sort of like scrabble--he enters a word every once in a while 
(in addition to whatever overhead is involved in soliciting an opponent online 
for a game).

> > Oh, and I have the statistics for both the IN and OUT on both the WAN
> > VC side and the Ethernet side, and, as I think I mentioned, if someone
> > wants to look at my spreadsheet, I can send it--I'm not sure how big
> > it is (I have to edit out some irrelevant other pages) so I probably
> > don't want to attach it to an email to the entire list.
> 
> If you want to send it you can - just use the email address in my
> headers.

Thanks, I will send it to you, by attaching it to another copy of this 
response sent to your address, only...

Note that the counters on the Westell apparently rollover at 2^32, so the 
formulas in my spreadsheet have to take that into account.  Some times I have 
to manually adjust (once so far, and I did it by a slight one-time revision to 
the formula in the given cell).

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Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-02-07 02:20 +0100
  Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router  are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as  many bytes) Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-02-07 12:50 +0100
    Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-02-07 14:30 +0100
      Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router  are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as  many bytes) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-07 14:50 +0100
        Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-02-07 15:20 +0100
      Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router  are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as  many bytes) Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-02-09 13:50 +0100
        Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-02-09 17:00 +0100
          Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router  are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as  many bytes) Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-02-10 13:10 +0100
            Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-02-10 15:20 +0100

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