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Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

From Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work
Date 2017-02-07 06:30 +0100
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On 03/02/17 04:52 PM, RLewis wrote:
> Gary Dale wrote:
>
>> On 02/02/17 08:03 AM, RLewis wrote:
>>> Hi Gary --
>>>
>>> Gary Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/01/17 09:08 AM, RLewis wrote:
>>>>> Hello Ken and Gary --
>>>>>
>>>>> ken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems
>>> accessing
>>>>> my
>>>>>>> Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I plug the phone in, I get the notification with 2 suggested
>>>>>>> actions. They both read "Open with File Manager" but the first one
>>>>>>> opens Dolphin with "camera:..." while the second opens Dolphin with
>>>>>>> "mtp:..." in the location bar. When I actually try to navigate to the
>>>>>>> folder with my photos, I get a notification on the phone telling me a
>>>>>>> device is attempting mtp access... When I click "Allow", I get
>>>>>>> another notification pop-up on my desktop with the same two
>>>>>>> options...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I actually try to access the photos, I frequently get "process
>>>>>>> died" or "I/O error" messages, although sometimes I can actually see
>>> a
>>>>>>> photo (not just the file names) - persistence pays off. Moreover the
>>>>>>> phone will lock when connected, even if a file transfer is underway.
>>>>>>> This kills the transfer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make matters worse, I have photos and videos that I have taken
>>>>>>> which show up in the Gallery on the phone and which I can view on
>>> the
>>>>>>> phone and see when I remove the SD card and read it directly but
>>> which
>>>>>>> don't show up in Dolphin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly this is not the way the process is supposed to work. I can
>>>>>>> understand the phone requesting a verification for the connection,
>>> but
>>>>>>> everything on the desktop side seems wrong:
>>>>>>> - the two actions should be distinguishable by their description,
>>>>>>> - the process shouldn't die and if it does, it should relaunch,
>>>>>>> - the connection should block the phone from locking if locking will
>>>>>>> stop file transfers,
>>>>>>> - there should be a record of the error in a log somewhere. As it is,
>>>>>>> all I can find is a lot of systemd journal entries like "Jan 24
>>>>>>> 14:01:33 transponder kernel: usb 4-5: usbfs: process 20598 (mtp.so)
>>>>>>> did not claim interface 0 before use" which seem to occur before the
>>>>>>> device is actually recognized.
>>>>>>> - all the photos should show up
>>>>>> It sounds like you want to offload files from your android.  For a few
>>>>>> years now I've been using Software Data Cable to do this, free app, no
>>>>>> cable needed.  Launch the app and it sets up an ftp server on the
>>>>>> phone.  Then from my laptop I log in, navigate, up- and download
>>>>>> files.
>>>>>> When done, I shut down the ftp server on the phone.  Easy-squeezy.
>>>>> Ken:  Thanks for the tip -- I'm going to give it a try,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary:  I'm using KDE Connect right now.  Install the app[1] on your
>>> phone
>>>>> (I have an S4) and the software[2] on your computer (I'm using jessie,
>>>>> but I
>>>>> see that there is a newer version available for stretch).  It works
>>>>> well and is easy to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kde.kdeconnect_tp
>>>>> [2] https://packages.debian.org/stretch/kdeconnect
>>>>>
>>>> I went to install kdeconnect on my desktop but it was already installed.
>>>> I installed the app on my phone but it can't see anything to connect to.
>>>>
>>>> I reinstalled kdeconnect on my desktop but still nothing, whether the
>>>> phone is connected to USB or just attached wirelessly. Any ideas on
>>>> what's going wrong?
>>> Have you tried "Refresh" on the phone?  If not, then tap on either the
>>> three-dot menu on the upper right or the menu on the lower right.  If
>>> your desktop still isn't listed under Available Devices, and it has its
>>> own IP address, you can add it to KDE Connect on the phone -- press
>>> either menu, then "Add devices by IP".
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Robert
>> Verified my desktop's IP address and added it but when I go back to the
>> KDE Connect Devices panel, it still isn't there even after a refresh.
>>
>> I don't see a menu on the lower right.
> Sorry, my mistake -- I meant lower left.  It doesn't really matter since
> it's the same menu as the upper right.
I don't see any menu on the lower part of the screen. Everything is at 
the top. There's a 3-bar symbol top-left that bring out the "pair new 
device" dialog and there is the 3-dotmenu top-right that allows me to 
refresh, rename device or add devices by IP.

>
>> What I've got is something on the
>> top left that when I press it, it shows me my phone and an option to
>> "Pair new device" that simply takes me back to the Devices panel.
>>
>> My desktop's IP address remains in the Custom device list panel but
>> never shows up anywhere else.
>>
>> I've verified that my phone is on my local network.
>>
>> I found kdeconnect-cli on my desktop but it also shows no devices.
> It sounds like you've done everything correctly.  If both your phone and PC
> are connected to the network, I think it should just work.  The only other
> suggestions I have are to add your hostname and/or your
> <username>@<hostname> in the "Add devices by IP" screen.
>
> The KDE Connect Community Wiki doesn't have much information, but does have
> a troubleshooting tip if you're behind a firewall.
>
> About your USB connection:  Do you have kio-mtp installed?  I can connect to
> my phone that way, too.  Just make sure that the phone's USB PC Connection
> is set for MTP.
>
Thanks Robert but even adding the username@ didn't help.
still
re. kio-mtp: I installed it and it seems to make the phone behave 
better. However I'm still getting mtp protocol died messages. As for 
setting the USB PC connection to MTP, how do I do that? I can't find 
anything in the settings that looks like it controls that.

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Android phone access in Dolphin does not work Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2017-01-24 20:50 +0100
  Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work ken <gebser@mousecar.com> - 2017-01-25 19:00 +0100
    Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-01-25 19:30 +0100
      Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2017-01-27 05:50 +0100
        Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-01-27 08:50 +0100
        Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work ken <gebser@mousecar.com> - 2017-02-02 21:40 +0100
          Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-02-02 22:10 +0100
    Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work RLewis <lewis.r0516@rogers.com> - 2017-01-28 17:40 +0100
      Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2017-02-02 03:00 +0100
        Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work RLewis <lewis.r0516@rogers.com> - 2017-02-02 14:10 +0100
          Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2017-02-03 05:50 +0100
            Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work RLewis <lewis.r0516@rogers.com> - 2017-02-03 23:00 +0100
              Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2017-02-07 06:30 +0100
                Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work RLewis <lewis.r0516@rogers.com> - 2017-02-08 04:20 +0100

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