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Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade?

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On Monday 06 February 2017 18:24:38 Mart van de Wege wrote:
> Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> writes:
> > On Monday 06 February 2017 13:54:11 Brian wrote:
> >> On Mon 06 Feb 2017 at 13:19:00 +0000, Patrick Schleizer wrote:
> >> > The unattended-upgrades was not installed on my Debian jessie system.
> >> > After upgrading to Debian stretch, the package unattended-upgrades got
> >> > installed. 'reverse-depends unattended-upgrades' [1] did not make me
> >> > any wiser. There must be a gap of my apt knowledge. Can anyone shed
> >> > light on this please?
> >>
> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/11/msg00117.html
> >
> > Can it cope with a back-log?  Has anyone tried?
>
> We use it in production at work. Yes, it can, *provided* you don't have
> any config file changes. That, it can't handle.

That is very reassuring.  Do you feel like sharing your config file?

> And forgive me a bit of a rant: it's a stereotypical Ubuntu hack job:
> inefficient, chokes on fairly standard deviations from the norm and
> badly documented.

This is what I was rather afraid of.  And I have not found 
<https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades>  reassuring, but I note that it 
is nearly a year out of date.  I am hoping that now it is a default in new 
installations, the config file is basically usable as a default as it stands.

> I agree with the developers' sentiment that automatic upgrades are a
> good thing, but I really think Debian could have cooked up a better
> script than !@#$% 'unattended-upgrades'.

I agree with the sentiment expressed later that I ought to write my  own if I 
don't like what is offered, but I am after a reasonably safe way of getting 
some fairly urgent security upgrades, and future urgent security upgrades, 
done pending my coming to grips with ssh-ing in.  

As a speaker at my local LUG helpfully said the other day, it is the router 
that is the problem.  Yes, I know that it is the router that is the problem.  
The trouble is, it *is* the problem!!

Lisi

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Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian  stretch upgrade? Patrick Schleizer <patrick-mailinglists@whonix.org> - 2017-02-06 14:20 +0100
  Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie ->  Debian stretch upgrade? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-02-06 15:00 +0100
    Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 17:40 +0100
      Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie ->  Debian stretch upgrade? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-02-06 18:00 +0100
        Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 18:20 +0100
          Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie ->  Debian stretch upgrade? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-02-06 18:40 +0100
      Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 19:50 +0100
        Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie ->  Debian stretch upgrade? Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 00:10 +0100
        Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 00:40 +0100
          Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 16:00 +0100
            Re: Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 16:20 +0100
  Re: [qubes-devel] Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after  Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Unman <unman@thirdeyesecurity.org> - 2017-02-07 04:00 +0100
    Re: [qubes-devel] Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after  Debian jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Unman <unman@thirdeyesecurity.org> - 2017-02-07 15:30 +0100
    Re: [qubes-devel] Why gets unattended-upgrades installed after Debian  jessie -> Debian stretch upgrade? Chris Laprise <tasket@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-08 19:10 +0100

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