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Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do?

From "John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com>
Newsgroups comp.dcom.telecom
Subject Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do?
Date 2022-05-29 22:24 +0000
Organization The Telecom Digest
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According to Bill Horne  <malassQRMimilation@gmail.com>:
> On 22 May 2022 12:11:50 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
>> IT was better than a modem for Internet access, and that's what killed it as it
>> was coming out in the early 1990s -- the Bells hated the Internet, which
>> broke their locality-based business model, and while they couldn't attack
>> modem users per se, they could at least attack the most obvious Internet
>> user group, non-Centrex ISDN BRI users.

>Why would the bells hate the Internet?

No per minute charges (other than what they could try to get for ISDN calls),
no separations, no "value" pricing.  It totally broke their business model.
This was way before VoIP, they wanted data to pay by the minute too.

>I wonder why? What was so different between the business models of the
>1990's and those of the 2020's that Centrex would no longer be a
>cost-saver for firms which chose to use it?

Phone switches have gotten a lot cheaper, wires haven't.  Putting a PBX
in the customer's office is a lot cheaper than running every extension
back to the CO.  I realize there were versions of Centrex that put the
switch on the client's premises but now it's just an expensive telco
managed PBX.

R's,
John
-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? [telecom] Bill Horne <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2022-05-19 13:05 +0000
  Re: ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? [telecom] "Marco Moock" <mo01@posteo.de> - 2022-05-19 17:49 +0200
    Re: ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? [telecom] "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2022-05-20 17:36 -0600
  Re: ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? [telecom] Bill Horne <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2022-05-21 16:36 +0000
    Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? Bill Horne <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2022-05-23 02:41 +0000
      Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Fred Goldstein" <invalid@see.sig.telecom-digest.org> - 2022-05-23 08:39 -0400
        Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@dork.geeks.org> - 2022-05-25 15:20 -0500
          Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? Bill Horne <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 19:21 +0000
            Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2022-05-29 22:11 +0000
          Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2022-05-27 19:53 +0000
      Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2022-05-23 10:36 -0600
    Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Fred Goldstein" <invalid@see.sig.telecom-digest.org> - 2022-05-22 12:11 -0400
      Re: ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "David" <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2022-05-28 16:12 -0400
        Re: ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? Bill Horne <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 20:59 +0000
      Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? Bill Horne <malassQRMimilation@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 20:51 +0000
        ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "David" <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2022-05-30 08:50 -0400
        Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-05-29 22:24 +0000
        Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2022-05-29 15:47 -0600
        Re: [telecom] ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2022-05-30 22:53 +0000
  Re: ISDN's days are numbered: What should you do? [telecom] "Michael Trew" <michael.trew@att.net> - 2022-05-20 23:40 -0400

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