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Re: A love of languages

From Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: A love of languages
Date 2022-04-07 09:02 +0000
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 22:18:57 -0000 (UTC)
legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:
>[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
>Muttley@dastardlyhq.com spake the secret code
><t23oq5$1jau$1@gioia.aioe.org> thusly:
>
>>If you think you might need it to get a job then do it, otherwise there's
>>little point. Its just another procedural scripting language with an OO
>>kludge nailed on top and doesn't bring anything new to the table. 
>
>The point about python isn't the language, it's the ecosystem of
>packages.
>
>Same for nodejs, perl, TeX, ruby, etc.  All those languages continue to
>thrive and be useful for their niche because the ecosystem of packages
>and the ease by which you can consume them makes it easy to get stuff
>done.

You could use the same argument for Java. Poor language but lots of libraries.
Cross platform runtime support doesn't matter nearly as much now as it did in 
the 90s when Java came out due to VMs and the cloud.

>....and speaking of package managers and python, I really dislike these
>package managers for C++ that are written in python.  Adding a
>dependency on another language is a fail from step 1.

Agreed.

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A love of languages Jack Lemmon <invalid@invalid.net> - 2022-03-27 17:00 +0100
  Re: A love of languages Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-27 18:24 +0200
  Re: A love of languages Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-03-28 23:08 +0000
    Re: A love of languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-03-30 21:53 +0100
      Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-03-31 10:29 +0200
        Re: A love of languages Mateusz Viste <mateusz@xyz.invalid> - 2022-03-31 10:52 +0200
          Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-03-31 11:59 +0200
          Re: A love of languages Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-03-31 16:15 +0000
        Re: A love of languages Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 09:06 -0700
      Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-03-31 08:29 +0000
        Re: A love of languages Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-04-04 06:00 +0000
          Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-04 08:28 +0000
            Re: A love of languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-04-05 21:10 +0100
              Re: A love of languages red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2022-04-05 13:28 -0700
              Re: A love of languages om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) - 2022-04-11 13:24 -0400
              Re: A love of languages om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) - 2022-04-11 19:13 -0400
        Re: A love of languages legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2022-04-06 22:18 +0000
          Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-07 09:02 +0000
          Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-07 11:24 +0200
            Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-07 09:42 +0000
              Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-07 12:02 +0200
              Re: A love of languages Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2022-04-07 21:54 +0200
                Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-08 10:49 +0000
                Re: A love of languages Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 05:21 -0700
                Re: A love of languages Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-04-08 12:16 +0000
                Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-08 15:08 +0200
                Re: A love of languages Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-04-08 15:31 +0100
                Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-08 18:15 +0200
                Re: A love of languages Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-04-08 19:14 +0100
                Re: A love of languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-04-08 14:53 +0000
                Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-08 18:18 +0200
                Re: A love of languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-04-08 17:47 +0000
                Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-09 09:13 +0000
                Re: A love of languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-04-08 14:51 +0000
                Re: A love of languages Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-16 13:39 -0700
                Re: A love of languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2022-04-11 08:28 +0000
              Re: A love of languages legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2022-04-07 20:54 +0000

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