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Re: Chris Pratt etc.

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Chris Pratt etc.
Date 2018-07-16 18:51 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
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-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 11:59:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>> > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 10:54:47 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> >> -hh wrote:
>> >> > On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 1:38:17 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> >> >> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> > SilverSlimer wrote:
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> (nonsense snipped)
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > More "white christians are the ones being suppressed" nonsense from
>> >> >> > the propagandist.  Christians have never had to fear being open about
>> >> >> > their faith, in Hollywood or anywhere else, in this country.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > As usual, the right-wing propaganda is 180 degrees from reality.  Let
>> >> >> > us recall who were "blackballed" in Hollywood, not so many years ago.
>> >> >> > Left-wingers, with shitty allegations of "communism", that's who.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I think you mean "actual communists."  And nobody really was
>> >> >> "blackballed."  They just worked under different names.  
>> >> > 
>> >> > No one was blackballed?  Then kindly show us what the actor 
>> >> > Zero Mostel did when he couldn't appear in movies...
>> >> > 
>> >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Mostel#Blacklist_years_and_HUAC_testimony>
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Zero Mostel was not even a star, and had made only one film, when he was
>> >> "blacklisted," not for fear of communist connections, but because the
>> >> idiot protested a film by his own studio and pissed off his bosses.
>> > 
>> > Films aren't the sole metric of success - - Mostel was also quite
>> > notable for live acts including NYC's Broadway, both early in his
>> > career as well as much later.  
>> >  
>> >> <quote>
>> >> According to biographer Arthur Sainer, "MGM blacklisted Zero Mostel way
>> >> before the days of the blacklist
>> >> </quote>
>> > 
>> > Yes, pre-HUAC, but all that you're doing is to admit that he was 
>> > blackballed *twice*.  Whoops!
>> > 
>> >  
>> >> He then has a revival of his career at the *height* of the blacklist,
>> >> when he makes five films in one year, 1951.  
>> > 
>> > 1951 was when the MGM blackball was ending and just before the HUAC
>> > blackball started. 
>> > 
>> >> Ooh, poor baby doesn't get work again for a few years.
>> > 
>> > Where "a few" is 1942 until the 1960s (twenty years)   /S
>> > 
>> >>  And all of this before he is even famous.
>> >> Mostel's career didn't really even *begin* before the 60s, so
>> >> to claim that he was a victim of the blacklist is really 
>> >> wearing out that victim card. 
>> > 
>> > Nope.  His career rose in 1941/42:
>> > 
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Mostel#Rise>
>> > 
>> > And this included making $4000/week in 1942, which at 
>> > fifty weeks would be an annual income rate of ~$200K/yr,
>> > and be worth today an income of $3M/year.  
>> > 
>> 
>> Nightclub gigs don't count as not "Hollywood" work.
> 
> Its still in the entertainment industry, as opposed to
> the subset of cinema; 'Hollywood' is merely a figure of 
> speech; the same figure of speech created the term 
> 'Bollywood' for describing India's cinematic industry.  
> 
> Besides, cinema historically started in NJ and the first studios 
> were in New York City.  Because some people wanted to illegally 
> pirate Edison's inventions, they fled to set up shop in California 
> circa 1910 as land was cheap and it was more difficult for
> Edison to enforce his patents.
>   
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_the_United_States#Rise_of_Hollywood>
> 
> 

Strawman.

>> https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0609216/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
>> 
>> The guy made one movie, in 1943. 
> 
> In that era, he was making the modern equivalent of $3M/yr,
> far outweighs what some minor performer makes, especially
> considering that SAG-AFRTA reports average pay as $52K/yr.
> 

Making $4K for a one-week gig an a restaurant does not translate
to "the equivalent of $3M/yr."


>> He pissed off his bosses and doesn't
>> get another film job until 1950-51, ...
> 
> His first blackballing.
> 

Because the moron protested a movie by his own studio.


>> ... when he appears in supporting roles in five or six films, two 
>> of which are Bogart vehicles.  His career does not catch fire, ...
> 
> Because you're ignoring what Wiki says happened:
> 
> "On January 29, 1952, Martin Berkeley identified Mostel to the House 
> Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC)"
> 
> Which results in his second blackballing.
> 

The fact that this idiot could not find work for a time does not mean
he was blackballed, especially given that he *was* able to find work
during the so-called blacklisting era. 

> Even though *you claimed* that no one was ever blackballed even once.
> 
>> so he goes until 1959 before landing some TV work, and finally 
>> another movie role in 1966, when his Hollywood career starts to
>> takes hold. 
> 
> Not just Hollywood:  he was also not able to work on Broadway, etc.
> 

Lots of actors can't find a job on Broadway.  That's why we have
waiters and waitresses.


>> This sort of erratic work period is typical of supporting
>> actor types, who have no real power and depend on the luck
>> of the draw.
> 
> Ad Hominem attempt that fails, since prior to the blackballing
> he had been a headliner.  And in 1943, LIFE magazine wrote that
> he was (then) "just about the funniest American now living".
> 
> <https://books.google.com/books?id=mE4EAAAAMBAJ&l&pg=PA61#v=onepage&q&f=false>
> 
> 
>> No one is owed a Hollywood career, and there are many ways to fuck 
>> one up -- something Mostel seemed to go out of his way to do.
> 
> He wasn't shy about his political beliefs, and as a result, had
> multiple instances of blackballing to try to punish him...even
> though you falsely claimed that no one had ever been blackballed.  
> 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Mostel#Professional_relationships

Any difficulty he had finding work was due primarily to the facts that
A) He was a hard-to-work-with prima donna.
B) He was not a leading box-office draw.

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                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-16 17:04 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 17:34 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-16 17:43 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-16 19:30 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-16 13:40 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-16 19:46 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-16 18:32 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-16 18:37 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 18:56 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-16 19:18 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-16 13:47 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-16 13:44 -0500
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-16 18:50 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 18:01 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 17:55 +0000
          Re: Chris Pratt etc. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-13 11:10 -0700
          Re: Chris Pratt etc. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 21:10 +0000
            Re: Chris Pratt etc. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-13 15:47 -0700
              Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 16:17 -0700
        Re: Chris Pratt etc. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-13 11:13 -0700
        Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-16 06:04 -0700
          Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-16 14:54 +0000
            Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-16 08:38 -0700
              Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-16 15:59 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 09:25 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-16 10:52 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-16 18:51 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-16 14:51 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. GasPipe <vinnythegaspipe@motz.org> - 2018-07-16 18:06 -0400
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:26 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-16 22:19 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-16 17:47 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-17 01:03 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-16 19:23 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 19:36 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 19:52 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-17 03:56 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 21:26 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 02:37 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 04:11 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 22:44 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 01:20 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-17 02:50 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 03:08 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 04:59 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-17 13:20 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 06:48 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 17:15 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-17 13:45 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 14:39 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-18 01:38 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 19:04 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-18 03:06 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-18 11:26 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 04:45 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-18 15:24 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 15:42 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-19 00:48 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:03 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-18 19:29 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-19 12:49 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-19 06:46 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-19 14:51 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 08:07 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-19 09:09 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 09:26 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-19 17:30 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 10:59 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-19 13:39 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:52 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-19 20:58 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-19 14:33 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-20 01:22 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 18:33 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 10:10 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 20:07 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 10:56 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-20 10:08 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-20 18:01 +0000
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:28 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-20 11:40 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:59 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:23 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 19:04 -0700
                Re: Chris Pratt etc. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 07:04 -0700
                Racist Communism Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-27 16:51 -0700
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