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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Another Junk Javashit Site |
| Date | 2018-12-18 18:41 +0000 |
| Organization | O.W.L. |
| Message-ID | <sz0b803ga.ghuio3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
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SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: > On 2018-12-18 12:23 p.m., owl wrote: >> SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: >>> On 2018-12-18 11:53 a.m., owl wrote: >>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> owl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> F. Russell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fact is that handguns, or firearms in general, have no place >>>>>>>> in an advanced civilized society. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, take away guns from law abiding citizens. That sounds like >>>>>>> a great plan. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fabian seems unaware of Wounded Knee where the authorities took guns >>>>>> away from the natives "for their safety and protection" before >>>>>> slaughtering the lot of them. >>>>> >>>>> The white man did that? "Fake news"! >>>> >>>> The indians kept weapons concealed and fired the first shot. >>>> Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. >>> >>> No matter how you look at the event, it is a lesson in the reasons why >>> people insist on holding onto their guns. >> >> The stupidity was starting a deadly fight after volutarily disarming. > > The fact that the act was so stupid is the reason I don't believe that's > the way that it happened. I sincerely believe that the Natives disarmed > voluntarily but that a shot was accidentally fired or simply not fired > at all. I believe that the event was closer to a genocide than a > misunderstanding. > https://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/resources/archives/eight/wklakota.htm <quote> Lakota Accounts of the Massacre at Wounded Knee ... TURNING HAWK... When the guns were thus taken and the men thus separated, there was a crazy man, a young man of very bad influence and in fact a nobody, among that bunch of Indians fired his gun, and of course the firing of a gun must have been the breaking of a military rule of some sort, because immediately the soldiers returned fire and indiscriminate killing followed. ... SPOTTED HORSE. This man shot an officer in the army; the first shot killed this officer. I was a voluntary scout at that encounter and I saw exactly what was done, and that was what I noticed; that the first shot killed an officer. </quote> >>> Even if one Native >>> accidentally fired as the most popular tale tells, there is no reason >>> for ALL of the Natives to have been slaughtered the way that they were. >>> >> >> Some kept rifles under blankets and started firing on the soldiers. >> That sort of deception can lead to an overkill reaction. >> >> The "native americans" were not peace-loving innocents. They did their >> share of massacres for centuries before and after the coming of the >> white man. > > Agreed but this event in particular seems out of the ordinary. > Shit gets out of hand sometimes.
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Another Junk Javashit Site fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-12-17 12:25 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-12-17 20:45 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-12-17 13:02 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-17 17:07 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-17 23:55 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-17 19:20 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-18 00:36 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-12-17 22:16 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-17 23:52 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 18:24 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 15:59 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 16:01 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-18 00:42 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-18 01:23 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-18 01:52 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-18 02:32 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 03:30 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 03:27 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-12-18 10:17 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-18 09:26 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-18 16:53 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-12-18 12:07 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-18 17:23 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-12-18 13:27 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-18 18:41 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-12-18 20:51 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 03:34 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 03:33 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-19 07:02 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-20 07:10 -0700
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 03:31 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 03:25 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-19 07:08 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-19 07:27 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-12-19 06:11 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-19 08:38 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-12-19 10:40 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-19 13:43 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-19 21:29 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 14:39 -0700
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-19 22:12 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-20 00:02 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-19 19:04 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-20 00:46 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-20 01:42 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 18:59 -0700
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-20 10:21 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-21 14:04 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-12-21 14:19 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 09:58 +0100
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-20 09:13 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-20 06:52 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-26 15:43 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-26 21:44 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-26 23:06 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-27 11:56 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-27 07:14 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-27 08:12 -0600
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-29 10:23 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-29 23:59 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-30 07:04 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2018-12-27 19:23 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-27 19:50 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 13:03 -0700
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2018-12-27 20:24 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-27 21:03 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-27 07:13 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-27 12:56 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-29 10:21 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-29 23:52 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-30 07:00 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-30 23:59 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-12-31 12:43 -0500
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-19 18:07 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-12-19 10:34 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-19 21:58 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-19 23:50 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-20 00:59 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-20 00:11 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 02:26 +0000
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-20 07:16 -0700
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 17:27 -0800
Re: Another Junk Javashit Site Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 07:48 -0800
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