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Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

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On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote:

> 	Hi.
> 
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:54:27 +0200
> deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Reco wrote:
> > 
> > > So basically you're proposing to force the user to install GTK3 (with
> > > both C and C++ bindinds) just to install pulseaudio.
> > > 
> > > There are reasons that this distribution is called Debian, not
> > > You-favorite-enterprisey-tangled-dependency-mess, and one of those
> > > reasons is a careful placement of dependencies.
> > > 
> > > Reco
> > 
> > Ric didn't say he proposes. He said "I think" which is personal opinion. I
> > think nowdays it is getting a big problem understanding each other and I
> > think it is sad, because we are misinterpreting what the other say which is
> > equivalent to not hearing.
> 
> My apologies to Ric, you and any other maillist participant just in
> case.

A sentence beginning "I think you should....." is practically equivalent
to "I propose you should......". So Ric did propose something. Proposing
or thinking is always a personal opinion.

You shouldn't have backed down.

> Still, I've seen where this road can take a perfectly good package.
> 
> First example being openjdk-7-jre-headless. After a certain DSA update
> about a year ago it started to depend on libpulse0 (because reasons,
> apparently), and boom - a *headless* java install bring about one third
> of X with it. Kind of depends the whole purpose of package from a
> certain perspective - as package description explicitly refers 'non GUI
> Java programs'.
> 
> Second example being libvirt-daemon-system, introduced in jessie, which
> started to depend on policykit-1, because (see #768376) from
> the POV of the maintainer of the package - absolutely nobody (bug
> report states 95% actually) uses libvirt without virt-manager, and
> virt-manager breaks somehow without PolicyKit.
> 
> Oh, and don't get me started on the way they package hplip.

Please do. What is wrong with the packaging of hplip?

-- 
Brian. 

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[jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 01:50 +0200
  Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 08:40 +0200
    Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 20:10 +0200
      Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 20:20 +0200
        [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 22:00 +0200
          Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 05:50 +0200
            Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 23:50 +0200
              Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 18:40 +0200
                Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 19:10 +0200
                Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 20:00 +0200
                Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 21:00 +0200
                Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-29 21:40 +0200
                Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 23:10 +0200
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 23:30 +0200
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-30 15:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 16:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-30 18:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 15:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 16:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-31 16:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 19:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 20:00 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-30 20:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording  line-in using ALSA?) Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 14:20 +0100
      Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 20:30 +0200

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