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Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service

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Il 03/02/2022 03:38, Chris ha scritto:
> I'm setting up a household water-tank level sensor that I'd like to be able to monitor from (practically) anywhere to a mobile device or remote PCusing the above-mentioned ESP8266-based setup. The device is sampling at 5min intervals, each sample is a single integer range 0 - 230 (cm of water height). Also toggling a 'heartbeat' boolean variable to indicate it's still alive.
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> Just getting stated with the ESP8266 and Arduino IoT Cloud via WiFi which was easy & convenient as it only took a few hours to get a solution up & running...
> 
> However, the free Arduino IoT cloud is limited to 1 day of historical data (I'd like months to a year). It also hides the bulk of the cloud API (which is convenient) though I'm not sure yet how to handle recovering from WiFi outages etc.
> 
> Internet searches uncover a ton of options many of which are far to up-market for my purpose.
> 
> It also appears there's another route using a local server (eg RPi) that receives the data (via NodeRed or similar) but then to access outside the local WiFi network means exposing a web server or similar - sounds like an extra tier or development and complication/maintenance.
> 
> Any advice would be helpful...

This is a big issue for our poor embedded developers. We are used to 
create "low-level" software that are near the hardware, but now the big 
part of the software is composed by "high-level": software that runs on 
24h 7/7 connected servers (backend) and software that runs on powerful 
usually connected device, mostly mobile (smartphones, tables, desktop PCs).

It's difficult to have in a single person all the skills needed to 
create a global IoT system, from the embedded devices to mobile 
frontends, passing by backend services.

Moreover, if 90% of embedded systems are similar (for example, most of 
them run software written in the C language), high-level software can be 
created with a multitude of technologies and commercial/free services.

If this isn't a commercial consumer product, I think I will end up with 
your last solution: a local web server exposed to the Internet. A stanrd 
ubiquitous web browser running on a desktop or mobile device can be used 
as the frontend.

If you are creating a commercial product, you can't use a local 
web-server, you need a Cloud system and a modern branded mobile app.
There are many technologies for this kind of systems, both for Cloud 
(backend) and for mobile apps.

Anyway I don't think you can find all these skills in a single person, 
mainly if you want to create a reliable system.

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Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service Chris <chris.hoffmann@gmail.com> - 2022-02-02 18:38 -0800
  Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-02-03 08:52 +0100
  Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service Stef <me@this.is.invalid> - 2022-02-03 09:55 +0100
  Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-02-03 11:32 +0000
  Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2022-02-03 23:57 +0000
    Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service Chris <chris.hoffmann@gmail.com> - 2022-02-03 20:03 -0800
      Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-02-04 16:45 +0000
        Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service Chris <chris.hoffmann@gmail.com> - 2022-02-06 14:35 -0800
          Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service Chris <chris.hoffmann@gmail.com> - 2022-02-09 14:24 -0800
    Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-02-04 08:34 +0100
      Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2022-02-04 11:19 +0000
        Re: Recommendation: Cheap (free!) IoT cloud service pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-02-04 12:53 +0100

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