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Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 09:59:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Wednesday 19 October 2016 08:38:29 Darac Marjal wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:01:59AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >On Wednesday 19 October 2016 05:14:46 Darac Marjal wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 05:09:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >> >On Wednesday 19 October 2016 00:33:29 Peter Ludikovsky wrote:
>> >> >> When you visit the URL it's fetching there's a notice that the
>> >> >> service is no longer available:
>> >> >> "In Accordance with NWS Service Change Notice 16-16 this service
>> >> >> has been discontinued."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> /peter
>> >> >
>> >> >And replaced by what?
>> >> >
>> >> >I did find that quoted phrase in my searching, but not that Change
>> >> > Notice 16-16. itself.
>> >>
>> >> Really? I searched for "NWS Service Change Notice 16-16" (no
>> >> quotes) and this
>> >> www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/scn16-16wngccb.htm was the first
>> >> result. It states that weather.gov now supplies all the appropriate
>> >> information, so weather.noaa.gov is no longer needed.
>> >
>> >I khexedited the deamon, found that address string and changed it to
>> >http://www.weather.gov. but on a restart, that gives a 404 error
>> > about once a minute.  I'll go recheck that weather.gov site & see if
>> > I can get any schmardter.
>>
>> There was much ballyhoo a while ago about Debian distributing the
>> "preferred modification source" (or words to that effect). The
>> argument was, IIRC, to do with "minified" javascript files; that is,
>> javascript files which have had all unnecessary whitespace removed so
>> that they download a little quicker in the browser. It was argued that
>> no-one in their right mind would try to actually work with the
>> minified javascript, and that Debian should be distributing the
>> original file and converting it to a minified version at "compile
>> time".
>>
>> The same goes for just about all Debian packages: what's in the *.deb
>> is not necessarily the "preferred modification source". In the case of
>> an executable program, there will be C (or C++ or Perl or Python or
>> Ada or ...) source code which is compiled to produce that executable.
>> Source code which Debian uses. Source code which Debian DISTRIBUTES
>> freely. Source code which you can download yourself, modify yourself,
>> compile yourself.
>>
>> What I'm trying to say is: don't go modifying the executable! Edit the
>> source code and recompile it!
>>
>> And if you want to know what changes to make, gkrellweather already
>> has a bug against it (#863347 https://bugs.debian.org/836347) which
>> includes a patch fixing the problem.
>
>Excellent, but will it get to the repo's?  And I'd assume the
>standalone "metar" app will need the same fixing?

Well, in theory, once bug 863347 is fixed, yes, it'll get released at 
some point. The bug is marked as "grave" AND has a patch, so it 
shouldn't be too hard to get it into the next release of Debian 
(stretch). With regards to Jessie, well it's not a security-related 
change so it probably wouldn't be released, but it may well be 
back-ported, but I don't know what the policy is there (does someone 
need to request the backport, for example?)

With regards to 'metar', that, too, has a bug against it (#833655 
https://bugs.debian.org/833655), which is marked as "fixed in metar 
20061030.1-2.2"). So, again, that should be released in stretch, too).

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mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-19 05:40 +0200
  Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Peter Ludikovsky <peter@ludikovsky.name> - 2016-10-19 06:40 +0200
    Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-19 11:10 +0200
      Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-10-19 11:20 +0200
        Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-19 14:10 +0200
          Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-10-19 14:40 +0200
            Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-19 16:10 +0200
              Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-10-19 16:20 +0200
                Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-10-19 17:20 +0200
                Re: mws vs metar data, nsw 1, metar 0 Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-10-19 17:30 +0200

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