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Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk.

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On 1/7/2022 5:48 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
> 
>> A subtle hint, is try an untick the MBR box on the interface,
>> click "Next", then "Back". Did the MBR box tick itself back
>> on again ? Then that is a subtle way of saying "we're going to be
>> capturing more than you think". You can't force the tool to be
>> totally negligent :-) It tries its best.
> 
>    Can you please indicate where the "MBR box" is in the interface and in
> which interface, the normal 'online' (i.e. running under Windows) one
> or the one in the offline Rescue media?

I guess that's baseless supposition on my part.

The tick box on the left seems to be associated with "the whole disk".
Selecting any partition causes it to be ticked. It may be that the
tick box there is intended as a "tick ALL" or "untick ALL" box. But
then the converse function seems to apply, in that ticking a partition
causes the box to be ticked, so you can click the box on the left and
"untick ALL" again.

So perhaps it always backs up the disk particulars and details, even
if only one partition is being backed up.

All I know is, it will ask you a question about geometry, if the backup
image no longer matches the disk you are restoring to. This to me implies
it backs up disk details, as well as the partition.

It wouldn't need to do that, for the payware "file by file" option.

And Macrium supports resizing partitions during Restore, but it does
not allow moving the origin of the partition. If you drag and drop
the Restore partition, that allows moving the origin, but then the
boot functions might not work, as not as much work is done during the
Restore.

To test it, I'd have to go back to an OS that has an earlier Macrium
on it. The one on this OS is Macrium 8 at the moment, used to take
pictures. And without an img2vhd.exe for Macrium 8, I can't use a
VHD container as an independent representation.

You have to be a bit careful with Windows 10, because of the changes to
NTFS. For example, a few days ago, I was using Paragon Partition Manager 14
(a software that offers a subset of functions for free), and an attempt
to resize a trivially empty partition got me a "there are crosslinked
files on this partition". Yet CHKDSK was unable to repair the partition
to the satisfaction of PM14. There could potentially be quite a few
older/broken utilities due to the handling changes to NTFS by Win10.
Win8 (by itself) would be fine. Win8 would not cause the same grief that
Win10 does. Macrium is fixed via 6.3.1865, but I don't know if it is
safe to say "or later", because maybe some of the later versions were
a bit thrown off by the Microsoft actions as well. Macrium generally
won't do a backup, if it is unhappy with the partition metadata
(busted $BITMAP). You get things like Error 9.

Summary: Best environment to test would be Macrium 6, where how you mount the
          VHD for content testing depends on which OS you do the work in.
          (Win10 can just "Attach" the VHD in Disk Management.)

    Paul

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Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-01-06 15:46 +0000
  Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2022-01-06 19:14 +0000
    Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-01-07 10:31 +0000
  Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-01-06 14:47 -0500
    Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-01-07 10:48 +0000
      Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-01-07 08:38 -0500
        Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-01-07 14:24 +0000
        Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2022-01-07 10:36 -0800
  Re: Macrium backup/restore of non-partition bits of a disk. Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2022-01-06 11:55 -0800

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