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| Subject | Re: [OT] I got a JOB!!! |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design, comp.dsp, comp.arch.embedded |
| References | (6 earlier) <0cCdncixRuyFEYbEnZ2dnUU7-bWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <B0USA.14491$8r1.938@fx42.am4> <MPG.338623ccb5124eff989823@172.16.0.1> <xOUSA.16651$C56.666@fx34.am4> <MPG.33867597fea4373b989824@172.16.0.1> |
| From | Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> |
| Message-ID | <so%SA.9711$Vh2.7018@fx01.am4> (permalink) |
| Organization | virginmedia.com |
| Date | 2017-05-17 18:04 +0100 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 17/05/17 15:59, Paul wrote: > In article <xOUSA.16651$C56.666@fx34.am4>, spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk > says... >> >> On 17/05/17 10:10, Paul wrote: >>> In article <B0USA.14491$8r1.938@fx42.am4>, spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk >>> says... >>> ....... >>>> The simple point to bear in mind is that the results of TDD >>>> are only as good as the quality of the tests. Test the >>>> wrong/unimportant thing, or don't test important behaviour, >>>> and the outcome can be "suboptimal". >>>> >>>> That's not a difficult point (to put it mildly!), but it >>>> is horrifying how it is ignored by zealots and/or not >>>> appreciated by inexperienced. >>>> >>>> The best defense is, to quote one of the two mottoes >>>> worth a damn, "Think". No change there, then! >>> >>> The Titanic sank but I bet nearly all the individual parts past their >>> unit tests. >>> >>> Or the video I saw on Dev Humor a while back of sliding door and bolt >>> to lock door fixed wrong way. Each part past its unit tests. >> >> Yup. >> >> None of this is difficult, but it does seem >> to escape some people :( > > Some of the classic videos > > http://devhumor.com/media/2-unit-tests-0-integration-tests > > and > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GypdsJulKE :) Of course there's a good argument that much (most?) "integration testing" is really just "unit testing" with larger units. People can get too stuck on the specific definition (of unit) they have been taught.
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