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Re: What difficultly level do you play one?

From	candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Subject	Re: What difficultly level do you play one?
Date	2024-07-17 15:50 +0000
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 17:07 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:10:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 18:23 this Sunday (GMT):
>>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 14:09:31 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>>>><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Interesting, I'm surprised there's still programs available for that.
>>>>
>>>>Heh. :) There is probably software out there to fill any and every
>>>>niche.
>>>
>>> You just gotta find it; that's the real trick. 
>>>
>>> But with nearly 8 billion computer* users, for every problem you've
>>> ever faced, there's likely 10,000 users who had a similar issue... and
>>> at least one of them is gonna be nuts enough to program a solution.
>>> And most people crazy enough to put in that much effort are going to
>>> put it out on the Internet somewhere, either for profit, bragging
>>> rights, or just out of sheer niceness.
>>>
>>> I remembering randomly trawling through various FTP and app-hosting
>>> websites, just because inevitably I'd stumble a utility that solved an
>>> issue I barely even recognized I'd had up to that point. I'd download
>>> it for free, and then use it once every two or three years when the
>>> issue reared its head. 
>>
>>I'm sure nowadays the best place to look would be github.
>>
>>> But -getting back to the topic on hand- third-party mapping programs
>>> for computer RPGs have existed for a long time, although they were a
>>> lot less ease-of-use back then. Largely because most games ran on DOS,
>>> and DOS was a single-process program, so you couldn't (easily) run a
>>> helper app and the game at the same time. But even from the earliest
>>> days there were a variety of hacks and apps to help the lost
>>> adventurer.
>>
>>I kinda figured :P were you intended to print it out?
>
> From what I recall (it's been a long time and I never really used any
> of the programs), the utils generally fell into one of three types
>
>     a) create a template for you to print and fill out
>
>     b) ran a program that you could fill out on the computer -but 
>        not while the game was running! You'd have to jump in and 
>        out of the game. Or I guess maybe you were just supposed to 
>        make the maps by hand and then transfer them over to the
>        app? But at least in the end you'd have less messy maps 
>        than if you did it by hand ;-). Usually let you print 
>        out the final product. 
>
>     c) read the data files of the game and recreated the maps 
>        from there (which you could then print out). These were
>        the best but were very rare.
>
> Only very much later did you have mapping programs that ran
> /concurrently/ with the games. It was hard to do, after all. DOS was
> so basic, that every game was essentially an operating system of its
> own, and you'd essentially have to hack the GameOS to get your app to
> work in tandem. 
>
> And given how resource strapped computers were, and how optimized
> games were, squeezing in a tool like that was something only the very
> best programmers could do. 
>
> At least until Windows rolled around, and multitasking became a thing.
>
>
>
> Of course, there were other applets too: save-game/character editors,
> trainers, tools to manipulate the game-data, etc. Generally, I
> discovered all these tools /long after/ I stopped playing the games in
> question but it was amazing how many were available.
>
> But finding them in the first place... that was always the problem.
> We're spoiled by Google.


Pretty cool :D
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What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-07 10:23 +0100
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-07 08:02 -0400
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-07 13:50 +0000
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 10:19 -0400
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-07 12:51 -0500
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-08 21:26 +0100
      Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 08:51 -0400
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-15 12:54 +0100
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-07 08:15 -0700
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 13:28 -0400
      Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-07 14:17 -0400
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> - 2024-07-08 10:33 -0400
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 15:41 -0400
          Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 08:55 -0400
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-24 08:24 -0700
              Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-24 17:54 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-24 19:01 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-29 01:20 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-29 09:14 -0400
      Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-08 21:38 +0100
      Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-10 06:14 -0500
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 09:04 -0400
          Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 17:29 -0400
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-08 21:46 +0100
      Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 12:27 -0400
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-10 09:28 +0100
          Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-10 06:22 -0500
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 17:40 -0400
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-11 09:31 +0100
              Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-11 11:23 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-13 09:45 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-13 11:43 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-13 09:02 -0700
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-15 10:22 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-14 10:15 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-14 14:15 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-14 13:24 -0700
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-14 16:35 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-15 12:51 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-15 07:47 -0700
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-15 10:39 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-19 10:07 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-19 14:50 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-08-01 12:09 +0300
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-08-01 12:58 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-15 11:48 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-15 12:28 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-15 10:31 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-19 10:14 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-15 10:19 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-15 15:43 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-15 15:10 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-16 08:47 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-16 12:50 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-16 15:49 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-16 18:24 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-17 16:00 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-17 12:47 -0500
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-19 14:50 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-17 09:28 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-17 11:14 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-18 09:33 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-24 08:52 -0700
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-24 21:25 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-24 21:48 -0700
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-25 08:39 +0100
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-17 10:24 -0500
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-24 08:36 -0700
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-10 06:15 -0500
          Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 09:17 -0400
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge) - 2024-07-10 14:43 +0000
              Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 12:28 -0400
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 09:12 -0400
          Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-10 13:50 +0000
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 12:34 -0400
              Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-13 16:30 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-13 14:09 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-13 21:20 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-14 07:54 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-14 16:40 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-14 14:23 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-16 15:10 +0000
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-16 13:07 -0400
                Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-17 15:50 +0000
        Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-24 08:30 -0700
          Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-24 21:35 -0400
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-25 06:24 -0700
            Re: What difficultly level do you play one? rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge) - 2024-07-25 14:22 +0000
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-07 08:48 -0700
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-10 06:24 -0500
      Re: What difficultly level do you play one? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-10 13:50 +0000
      Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-24 09:06 -0700
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-07 20:12 +0000
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? <smaug@ereborbbs.duckdns.org> - 2024-07-08 14:03 +0000
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-10 09:19 -0400
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-09 19:00 -0500
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge) - 2024-07-10 14:27 +0000
  Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-07-14 23:35 +0300
    Re: What difficultly level do you play one? Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-14 16:35 -0500

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