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Re: What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?

From Maus <Greymaus@mail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?
Date 2021-10-05 13:54 +0000
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On 2021-10-05, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Oct 2021 20:59:45 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-10-03, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 01/10/2021 18:43, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2021-10-01, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/09/2021 02:15, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You only update software when the benefit justifies the cost.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The problem is that a lot of updates don't add any real functionality,
>>>>>>> they just plug security holes that someone has found.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or they add security holes when the vendors decide they don't
>>>>>> don't have their hooks into you deeply enough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm paranoid, but I'm not _that_ paranoid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you have a source for that assertion?
>>>> 
>>>> No definite examples, but I did read the entire Windows EULA back
>>>> around the XP days.  I found a clause in which Microsoft claimed
>>>> entitlement to walk into your machine whenever they felt like it,
>>>> take a look around, and remove anything which they in their sole
>>>> estimation felt you should not have.
>>>> 
>>>> That nobody recognizes automatic updates as a wide-open back door
>>>> has always amazed me.
>>>> 
>>>> Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
>>>
>>> I know of situations where someone, maybe Amazon, has gone into peoples’
>>> eReaders and deleted eBooks which they had purchased.
>>
>>Need details, exact details to make sense of that story.
>>
>>If they were purchased from Amazon, there's no problem.
>>The book is reloaded when you try to access it.
>
> If Amazon removed it, why would Amazon allow you to reload it?
>
>>I used to have Amazon's free book deal.  Download and read up to 10
>>books at a time.  To get the 11th, you have to return 1.  When you
>>cancel, all books currently in the deal get deleted when you try
>>to access them.
>
> That's not what is under discussion.

IMHO, if you didn't like amazon's policy, you had an alternative. Start
your own ebook selling system, and publish  your stuff yourself.

My own policy since leaving school early was, if anyone asked you to do
a job, you did it, regardless of who they were. Once I left a job
because of an argument, and i regret it still.


>
><https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html>


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