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Re: Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices?

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arlen holder wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:23:22 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>
>> That's the one thing I /really do/ like about you.  You seem to care
>> about and take care with proper English usage.
>
> Hi Cybe R. Wizard,
> [...]
> I'm DIFFERENT from almost everyone you have ever met in your life
> (in a bunch of ways, the COMBINATION of which makes me unusual).

Everyone is different from everyone else.  That's part of being human
... unless you're a lizardperson perhaps?  That would be a way better
explanation for why you use everyone's full nick all the time than
something about "talking to them like children".

>
> For an example, I maintain a Usenet STRATEGY which I call the "FAQ model".
> Where, by design, my TACTICS fit _that_ strategy.
>
> If you don't COMPREHEND my strategy & tactics - you won't understand me.

I've yet to see anyone who doesn't comprehend what it is you're doing,
arlen holder.

>
> For example, most Usenet posters use what I call the "chit-chat model".
> o They post 99% to other people's threads, & only 1% to their own threads.

Perhaps it's because they have no need to create threads to get things
done, yet rather reserve their posting for people needing help.

Though that does have downsides of making it look like a group is dead.

> o Each post contains, usually, very little technical information (normally)

One can cherry-pick anything to suit their needs, of course, arlen
holder.

> [...]
> o Each post contains, usually, well-cited factual information (normally)
> o For _that_ model, WHAT you say are is more important than WHO you are

Unless you're "Diesel, Snit, Colonel Edmund J. Burke, John, Doe, Nomen
Nomescu, Shadow, Good Guy, Mr. Man-wai Chang, David B., %, Anonymous,
Cybe R Wizard, etc. (MessageID: <q1o1lh$lrs$1@news.mixmin.net> )", of
course.

>
> You'll note, for example, that most of you who use the "chitchat" model,
> care greatly about the identity of whom you're dealing with - whereas - I
> don't give one whit about whom I'm dealing with - other than when they're
> wasting our time - in that I can't forget them (much as I would like to
> perhaps).

That is, merely your opinon, arlen holder.

> My strategy is to FURTHER our tribal knowledge, by obtaining technical
> answers to technical questions. My tactics fit that strategy (for the most
> part).

Until they don't, and you start in on your ad hominem arguments that
someone is "a child" (or immune to facts, or whatever the angle du jour
is, arlen holder.)

>
> For example:
> o Is this (Marek assisted) Internet privacy procedure as good as I can
> make it?
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/Ih1TMsMjV_M/zYlVS6YOEgAJ>

"Internet privacy", links to google.  

Made me think of this:
  "War is peace.  Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

> [...]
> This thread is a GOOD example of the Usenet Q&A model working well:
> a. Asking a question that doesn't have a well-known answer (it seems)

It has a well-known answer.  "Run a CalDAV server of your own".  It's
not an "easy" solution by any means, but it is well known.

Trouble is, the likes of facebook / google / etc. have done about as
much good to "the web" as AOL did to Usenet in 1993.

> [...]
> Having said all of that, what irks me are the utterly incomprehensibly
> idiotic comments such as those you see from Dan Purgert, you, and FredW in
> this thread (and where I can list thousands in other threads), where, I
> simply ask these people if THEY contribute to the thread with their
> utterly idiotic drivel.

arlen holder, you could've left this out, and nothing of value would've
been lost.

>
> I do this STRATEGICALLY, not to save the current thread, since I believe

arlen holder, the thing you miss is that the thread does not need
"saving" by any stretch of the imagination.

> once the trolls show up in any thread, like flies at a picnic, it's
> already ruined (where I bluntly liken it to the trolls shitting on the
> potluck picnic table that is Usenet) - but - to save the NEXT thread.

Where you'll have the same antics as ever, arlen holder. We really
shouldn't sink to the bait, but, well, it can be fun.

>
> That is, if I make it "not fun" for YOU, Cybe R. Wizard, to troll, you've
> ALREADY ruined THIS thread by your trolls - but - I hope to make you aware
> that I will ALWAYS call you out on your trolls (like I did in this
> thread).

Some big accusations there, arlen holder.  You've done just as much (if
not more) to sully the thread as anyone else.

>
> I do that - on purpose - to make it more expensive (i.e., "less fun") for
> you and those like you to play your worthless silly little games.

I've yet to stop having "fun" in this thread (although your posts do
tend to be like reading Tolkien.  Lots of words to say very little).

>
> My strategy is to learn & further our combined tribal knowledge.
> My tactic is to ask a question - manage the thread - and then leave.

"Manage" a thread by making ad hominem attacks toward people you don't
like, arlen holder.


> When the trolls inevitably arrive - I assume that Q&A thread is already
> ruined just as if the trolls shat' on the Potluck Picnic Table as their
> contribution to Usenet - so I simply make it "expensive" (i.e., "less
> fun") for the trolls to play their silly little games.

arlen holder, the thing you don't understand is that the thread is not
ruined at all; until you start making ad hominem arguments (and at which
time, people respond in kind). 

Not to mention, it's funny watching you get riled up and calling people
more knowledgeable than you children, and then you not getting any
answers about whatever.


>
> One thing is going to change though, moving forward, which is that I'm
> going to realize that "some people" are not only incredibly stupid
> (which I already knew), but they're literally incapable of
> comprehending even the simplest of facts. There is a thread already on
> that topic so I belabor it not here...

arlen holder, you mean people like Cybe, right?  I mean, you did happen
to call him out by name in the aforementioned thread.

> o I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly
> Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the
> left on the Dunning-Kruger scale

And Cybe.  Don't forget you called him out by name in that list as well.


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