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Re: Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices?

From Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices?
Date 2019-01-11 17:02 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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arlen holder wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:58:55 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>> Sure, setup a CalDav server.
>
> Thanks for that suggestion, Dan Purgert.
>
> I spent most of the night testing over two dozen apps, where my approach
> was to first get single-system calendaring working on Linux, Windows, and
> Android.  (So far, I haven't found a single-system calendar app on iOS.)
>
> After testing two dozen apps, I only belatedly realized that the "proper"
> solution is "probably" what you just said - which is to set up a CalDav
> server on both Linux & Windows (depending on what I'm booted to at the
> time).

Don't do that. Means that you're either 

 - going to run the server database on NFTS 
 - have to find someway to sync the database with the two OSes
 - deal with putting in the data twice

Just run it straight on linux. Personally, I'd recommend a spare box
(slow doesn't really matter, so even a raspberry pi would be
sufficient); but if you can't swing that, a virtual machine where the
virtual harddrive is accessible to both linux and windows may work (NOTE
- same "writing to NTFS" downside applies).

>> [...]
>> Well, you have to authenticate to the CalDav server so it knows to give
>> you "Arlen's" calendar rather than someone else's, even if you're the
>> only user of it.
>
> Thanks for that login/password advice, Dan, where, I think, once I set up
> the Windows/Linux CalDav server, that it will have a login/password,
> which, if I'm lucky, I can set to <blank>/<blank>, or, at worst "x/y",
> so that authentication won't be an issue.

The ones I'm aware of require proper username / password, and many of
them have minimums that you have to follow (e.g. username must be 3
characters).  You're only ever putting it in once per device, so even
"arlen / password" wouldn't be the end of the world.

> I get your point which is that "authentication" is required, but it can be
> done on my own server. 

Of course, you're the guy running the show.

> Moving forward, I'm currently looking for a tutorial for setting up
> "OwnCloud" as a CalDAV server, since it's the only server software, it
> seems, that works on both Windows & Linux (so far).

Don't think Owncloud does caldav, but then I haven't dug _that_ deeply
into its featureset.  "Easily share pictures with non-computery family
WITHOUT using facebook" was really all I needed.

Calendaring is "good enough" via google (although it doesn't tie in well
with the PCs -- but then again, I don't maintain it on the PC).  I did
look into using my mailserver and hordemail's calendar features, but at
the time there were no android CalDav implementations.  Not that I
_don't_ have that calendar running; it's just that I can only get to it
via the webmail client.

Though you probably don't wanna go through the hassle of setting up /
securing a MTA to just get some calendars.

> [...]
> This tutorial is for Linux, where it say "OwnCloud" is "incredibly
> complex", so that's not a good sign though.

It is, but then again setting it up is a lot of "just follow the
directions to the letter and you'll be fine".

>
> What that means is that it's not OBVIOUS which is the _simplest_
> single-purposes CalDAV server that works on both Linux & Windows.

Generally, that's because CalDav servers are implemented as parts of
other tools (such as a webmail client).

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Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-11 09:14 +0000
  Re: Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-11 10:17 +0000
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                Re: Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 15:19 +0000
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