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Re: WWDC 2018

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: WWDC 2018
Date 2018-06-05 10:24 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnphcp61.1e03.g.kreme@Snow.local> (permalink)
References <pf49f2$vgv$1@gioia.aioe.org> <040620181713045954%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pf4oan$pv3$1@news.albasani.net>

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In message <pf4oan$pv3$1@news.albasani.net> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2018-06-04 21:13:04 +0000, nospam said:

>> In article <pf49f2$vgv$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> As predicted, no new hardware announcements, just tweaks to the various
>>> OSes, mainly useless garbage like "Desktop Stacks" and trying to rework
>>> Quick Look into being a Preview replacement.  :-\
>> 
>> as predicted, more ignorant comments.

> I for one am very interested in *most* of what was offered in the OS 
> changes. And what a boatload of eye-candy!  I could care less about 
> icons and animated icons and all that stuff, but I know that such 
> frippery has legions of fans.

Stacks on the desktop is really nice. Dark mode is loverly. Quicklook is
much more capable, the preview pane is finally useful, and Siri controls
my HomeKit devices.

> I thought the group facetime stuff was very cool, and again think it 
> will draw in plenty of users--the kind of people who love this sort of 
> stuff. I have an iPhone as does my wife and all my friends; none of us 
> use facetime to my knowledge. Still I wouldn't be shocked to find I'm 
> using it in a few years.

I have only used Facetime to talk to my wife/kids when I was away for a
week, which nearly never happens. However, when we upgrade to iPhones X
this fall, I am sure we will be using animoji/Memoji facetime. I will
definitely be using them in iMessages.

> I wonder if the intent is to draw away users from the competition 
> (android, others) with all these extraordinary bells and whistles.  
> There are a *lot* of bells and whistles!

> Desktop stacks may well be garbage for "Your Name" and of little use to 
> me, since I keep my desktop well organized.  But it will be a 
> *dramatic* way for my wife to understand her haphazard world, and for 
> me to periodically sort it out for her.

Even with a well organized desktop, which I have, the stacks are useful.
I no longer need to put temporary images into a folder for neatness
sake, i can just have a stack. It's great. the UI is little clunky, but
part of that might be that my beta computer doesn't have a trackpad.


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good people and the bad people,' said the man [Vetinari]. 'You are
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WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 09:03 +1200
  Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 17:13 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 18:17 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 21:38 -0400
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:09 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:25 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 06:41 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:57 +1200
        Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:20 -0400
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:31 +0000
              Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:21 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 12:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:25 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:29 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 22:04 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 14:29 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 00:42 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 01:05 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 01:16 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 18:46 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:22 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-06 08:45 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:11 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 09:22 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 10:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 22:20 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:17 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:34 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 10:10 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 13:33 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 14:57 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 09:32 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 00:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 06:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-07 13:49 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:21 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 09:23 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 01:12 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 16:25 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 06:37 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:23 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:24 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:41 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:31 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 00:36 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:30 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:15 -0700
          Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 18:40 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 00:49 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:31 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 18:36 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 15:25 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
      Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:26 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:19 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:00 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-05 22:32 +0200
            Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 21:13 +0000
      Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:24 +0000
  Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:30 +1200
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 00:07 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Peter Kozlov <peter.kozlov@blacksea.design> - 2018-06-05 14:33 -0700
    Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:37 +1200
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 22:10 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-07 12:12 +0000
    Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 15:59 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 14:00 +1200

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