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Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC?

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On 2016-05-06, Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
> In article <871t5guzss.fsf@senguio.mx>,
> Lawrence Statton NK1G  <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote:
>>Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>>> A local chain sells refurbished Lenovo laptops.  Not only are they cheap,
>>> they have professional-grade keyboards rather than the cheap junk that
>>> is pushed on you everywhere else.
>>
>>The problem is -- the newer Lenovo gear is getting chintzier ... I
>>bought a half-dozen T400s a couple of years ago (I'm really hard on
>>hardware -- I travel a LOT, and I travel to inhospitable places) so I'd
>>have a supply for the next few years.
>>
>>In terms of performance -- outside of the occasional runaway memory leak
>>on some video plugin for web stuff, I could not imagine needing more CPU
>>zorch.  (Of course, one of the prime consumers of CPU cycles is gaming,
>>which I steadfastly avoid).
>
> If you need them for linux while travelling I can recommend the Samsung
> Chromebooks with ARM processors highly. They use a LOT less power, and even
> the cheap ones are pretty solidly built. I have used one on my 3 days/week
> commute for 3 years now before wearing it down, losing two keys in a fall
> from 2 meters; but otherwise fully functional.
>
> You get chromeOS by default, and if you install an SD card you can install
> a second set of user space stuff on it. Backups means cloning the SD card, 
> and the clone (or original) drops right in to another one. OK; you have to
> settle for 16/32 G SSD and ..128G for the SD card, but it is exactly what
> I need for travelling.
>
> The normal Linux apps take around 38% as much space on disk, and around 45%
> as much in memory, as a standard x86. Tested this extensively with an identical
> user space buiild (ubuntu 14.10) on an Acer i5.
>
> You get them with 2 and 4 processors, and 2 to 8 G ram, 16 or 32G ssd, and
> a small set of IO ports. 
>
> The 4 processor ones show 1024x768 youtube videos without a glitch. The 2
> processor ones show SD similarly.
>
> The CPU speeds are up to 2 GHz, and the processing power is about 10% weaker 
> than an intel i5 Mhz for Mhz. Tested this extensively. Power consumption on
> the faster cpu speeds are around 12-15% of what the i5 uses, and the standby
> is around 40% of the i5; dominated by the illumination of the screen.
>
> They all have around 9 hours of actual work time on the batteries, and around
> 4 days of standby time (with remote ssh active, and wake-on-lan on), but the
> lid shut.
>
> -- mrr
>
> Not your typical pc. But there are VERY few virii for arm-based linux that
> is not android.

I hate Chromos. Dunno why, but I gave it to my sister, her to her son,
and so it went.

-- 
greymaus

iD|marrA Raa|fLa 
Ireland

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  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 19:07 -0600
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 12:31 +1100
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-09 21:38 -0600
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-10 04:13 +0000
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? timcaffrey420@gmail.com - 2016-03-09 19:58 -0800
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-03-09 22:29 -0600
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-09 22:30 -0600
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-10 02:07 -0400
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-03-10 08:20 +0000
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-10 14:31 +0100
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-03-10 08:22 +0000
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-03-10 17:02 +0000
      Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-10 14:10 -0500
      Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-10 14:43 -0600
        Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-03-11 08:14 +0000
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-03-10 09:21 +0000
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-10 10:22 +0000
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-10 15:19 +0100
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-10 11:02 +0100
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-10 06:30 -0700
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-10 14:47 +0000
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-10 09:01 -0600
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-03-11 21:49 -0600
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-10 14:12 -0500
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2016-05-02 09:51 +0100
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2016-05-03 20:40 +0000
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 17:40 -0400
      Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 23:03 -0400
      Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-04 12:54 +0000
        Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 10:08 -0400
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-05-04 20:36 +0000
  Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? jhhaynes@earthlink.net - 2016-05-03 19:53 -0700
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-05-04 14:42 -0500
    Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 22:43 -0400
      Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-05 08:37 +0000
        Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-05 13:26 -0500
          Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-05 20:13 +0000
          Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-06 14:09 +0200
            Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-06 19:42 +0000
              Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-07 02:42 +0200
        Re: Typical service life of residential and business PC? pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-05-09 22:53 +0000

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