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Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/08/15 09:06, Rob wrote:
>> Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> dhcpcd5 is a DHCP client deamon. It handles the DHCP on your network
>>> interfaces. Unlike previous clients it ignores the settings in
>>> /etc/network/interfaces and just does its own thing. So if you set a
>>> manual address in /etc/network/interfaces you get two addresses - one
>>> from interfaces and one set by dhcp.
>>
>> But why did they make this change?  The old dhclient worked, didn't it?
>
> Mostly, yes. I believe the isc-dchp-client that was used before had some 
> issues with IPv6 addresses.
>
> Using the new one is something to do with the choice of Wifi GUI tool. 
> It works ok if all you want to do is use a standard DHCP setup.

Ah... I do recognize that!  We have some immediate requirement and replace
the working system with a newly written untested program, and without
looking into other requirements than the writer has on his own system...

>> There appears to be a tendency to replace old and trusted software from
>> trusted developers by newfangled crap that more mimicks the behaviour
>> and stability of Microsoft Windows, but why would "we" want to do that?
>
> I'm not keen on the idea of "That has been the standard method since 
> forever - let's get rid of it!" that seems to be going around. Notwork 
> Mangler was one example that I never got on with, but at least that made 
> a show of acknowledging the interfaces file. This new dhcp daemon 
> doesn't seem to even bother with that (I'm willing to believe that there 
> might be a way to configure it to work "properly" though)

Another one is the new idea of moving the entire system into the init
program (then called systemd), and in the process modify many other things
that "systemd cannot handle".  (instead of implement changes into it
to overcome those shortcomings)

Fortunately I still have a raspbian image from 2013 that I still use
on all my new deployments, and from which things like ifplugd can still
easily be removed.

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  Re: Logs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-04 19:49 +0100
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              Re: Logs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 22:07 +0100
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                Re: Logs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 23:40 +0100
                Re: Logs Stefan Enzinger <mindoms@aon.at> - 2015-08-07 10:23 +0200
                Re: Logs Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-08-07 13:51 +0000
                Re: Logs Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-07 14:45 +0000
          Re: Logs Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-08-07 06:51 +0100
            Re: Logs T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> - 2015-08-07 21:10 +0100
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                Re: Logs Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-08 17:26 +0100
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                Re: Logs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 07:16 +0100
              Re: Logs Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 06:21 +0100
                Re: Logs Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 08:06 +0000
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                Re: Logs Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 08:37 +0000
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      Re: Logs "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2015-08-09 08:36 +0200
        Re: Logs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 16:02 +0100
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          Re: Logs "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2015-08-17 17:44 +0200
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    Re: Logs Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-05 08:16 +0000
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