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Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite
Date 2014-08-02 12:48 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnltpnh2.1c6s.g.kreme@amelia.local> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <290720142210483265%michelle@michelle.org> <slrnltnbrd.1to1.g.kreme@amelia.local> <010820140846298243%michelle@michelle.org> <slrnltocru.1to1.g.kreme@amelia.local> <lrig5s$122$1@dont-email.me>

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Okay, so one time? In band camp? MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Sat, 02 Aug 2014 12:57:00 +0200 <lrig5s$122$1@dont-email.me>
> Am 02.08.14 um 02:40 schrieb Lewis:

>> At least with IMAP the mail is going to almost certainly exist on other
>> machines or devices.

> I'm not using IMAP, but just out of curiosity - isn't there a 
> (technical) way that (any) email client software can actually delete a 
> mail, even from an IMAP account, if the user wishes to do so? Or are 
> IMAP mails entirely undeletable by manual activity from the user/client? 
> (I don't know, so that's a real question...)

Yes, it is possible. However, that deleted mail is still going to exist
on the other machines before they sync to delete, for example.

Also, in general, IMAP mail is MARKED as deleted, but is not actually
deleted until some further action is taken. It would take a look more
effort to really remove a message, and it's hard to imagine it happening
accidentally.

> And: Is it possible to set rules in Apple Mail or Thunderbird etc. to 
> automatically delete certain mails, once they pass some filter?

To mark the messages as deleted, yes. To actually delete them? I don't
think so.

> Because - if you accept that beta software may accidentally kill mails 
> through POP3 access if it fails, then why would beta software never kill 
> a mail through IMAP access if this deleting process is actually 
> something that the software is capable of in general?

Because the deleting, moving, tagging, etc of IMAP messages is done by
the server which is *not* running beta software.

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Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:21 -0700
  Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-30 14:35 +1200
    Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 22:03 -0700
      Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-30 17:55 +1200
        Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 00:26 -0700
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2014-07-30 12:21 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:10 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 07:57 -0700
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:06 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 07:58 -0700
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 15:25 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 18:03 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 01:56 +0000
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:23 +0000
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:13 +0000
  Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 02:36 +0000
    Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 22:10 -0700
      Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:16 +0000
        Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:46 -0700
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 15:48 +0000
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 00:40 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 12:57 +0200
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 07:04 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 13:42 +0200
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 12:52 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 09:00 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 13:36 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-08-02 13:48 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-08-03 08:43 +1000
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 12:48 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 15:37 +0200

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