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Re: Looking at su versus sudo

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Looking at su versus sudo
Date 2014-03-21 18:07 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnliovuh.2rg.g.kreme@amelia.local> (permalink)
References <lgepqt$839$1@solani.org> <lgg75d$39d$1@dont-email.me>

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In message <lgg75d$39d$1@dont-email.me> 
  Alvaro Martínez <alvaro.gmj@gmail.com> wrote:
> RS Wood wrote:

>> Linux System is much secured than any of its counterpart. One of the way
>> to implement security in Linux is the user management policy and user
>> permission. normal users are not authorized to perform any system
>> operations. If a normal user needs to perform any system wide changes he
>> needs...

> I believe we should stop promoting FUD like this. The FOSS communities have 
> been damaged in the past by FUD from companies like Microsoft, but we have 
> our own half-truths that we are used (and like) to say/write.

> Every modern OS has privilege separation between users, so starting an 
> article implying that user management is a reason why linux "is much secured 
> than any of its counterpart" [sic] is just silly.

Setup a new computer with Windows or OS X. You are an admin user with
the ability to escalate privs to 'root'. Your system is vulnerable to
many attacks that it would not be if you used a non-admin user.

Setup a Windows machine with a non-admin user and many things do not
work at all, especially many games.

Setup a OS X machine with a non-admin user and everything pretty much
works as you would expect, with some minor annoyances.

> Besides, while this is obviously aimed at Windows, I'd say that in general 
> the first sentence of the summary is not even correct: it is debatable 
> whether the default security of a given Linux distribution is on par with 
> OpenBSD or systems like AIX

I wouldn't think so, but out-of-the-box it is still a decade or two in
front of Windows.

-- 
When the stars threw down their spears And watered heaven with their
tears, Did He smile his work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee?

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Looking at su versus sudo RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-20 13:18 +0000
  Re: Looking at su versus sudo Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:24 +0000
    Re: Looking at su versus sudo RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-20 15:45 +0000
  Re: Looking at su versus sudo Alvaro Martínez <alvaro.gmj@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 23:11 -0300
    Re: Looking at su versus sudo RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 09:35 +0000
    Re: Looking at su versus sudo Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-21 18:07 +0000
      Re: Looking at su versus sudo Alvaro Martínez <alvaro.gmj@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 00:23 -0300
  Re: Looking at su versus sudo Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2014-03-22 10:07 +0000
    Re: Looking at su versus sudo Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> - 2014-03-22 16:32 +0100
      Re: Looking at su versus sudo Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2014-03-22 19:18 +0000
        Re: Looking at su versus sudo Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-23 12:34 +0200
          Re: Looking at su versus sudo Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-23 11:34 +0000
        Re: Looking at su versus sudo Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> - 2014-03-23 13:03 +0100

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