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Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject...

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject...
Date 2014-01-13 05:46 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnld6vcs.1chu.g.kreme@amelia.local> (permalink)
References (11 earlier) <slrnld4830.12iv.g.kreme@amelia.local> <bjemp6Fb0mgU1@mid.individual.net> <slrnld5o8n.14c4.g.kreme@amelia.local> <bjgi05FnaunU3@mid.individual.net> <barmar-D5D946.22282212012014@news.eternal-september.org>

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In message <barmar-D5D946.22282212012014@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <bjgi05FnaunU3@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> On 2014-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> > In message <bjemp6Fb0mgU1@mid.individual.net> 
>> >   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >> On 2014-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Reading the subject is usually way more than I am willing to do. If the
>> >>> content is not clear from the body, I move on.
>> >
>> >> Huh? Your statment doesn't make much sense to me. You act as if you can
>> >> read a message without seeing the subject, which is certainly not the
>> >> case if you are using slrn, since slrn (like most news clients) display
>> >> a list of message subjects before you are allowed to see the bodies.
>> >
>> > As I explained up thread I generally just start reading the first
>> > message and move on to the next until the end. I don't look at the
>> > subjects first.
>> >
>> >> Now, you may choose to ignore the subject, but you can't unsee it once
>> >> you've seen it, and something tells me, whether you admit to it or not,
>> >> that you don't read every single message that is posted in every news
>> >> group without deciding first, based on the subjects, whether you want to
>> >> read them or not. 
>> >
>> > Again, as I said previously, the csm* hierarchy gets few enough posts and
>> > I have good enough filters that yes, I start at the first and read to
>> > the end. If a thread I am reading gets especially dull, then I may mark
>> > it read. But I'm still not paying the slightest attention to the
>> > subjects.
>> 
>> Ok. While that's great for you, the rest of us still care about the
>> length of subjects. : )

> I thought he was on your side, agreeing that the important information 
> should be in the post, not the subject. He wasn't saying that the length 
> of the subject is unimportant because he doesn't read them. He's saying 
> that if you put the point of your thread in the subject rather than the 
> message, it makes the post unintelligible.

Yes.

OTOH, while others are annoyed at long subjects because they read them
(I guess, but why?) I don't care if the subject is 1000 characters, as I
am very unlikely to see any of the characters at all.

For example, I haven't a clue what the subject to this post is because
the headers have scrolled up off my vim buffer.

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Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-01-05 08:52 -0800
  Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-05 11:55 -0500
    Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-05 19:35 -0500
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-05 19:55 -0500
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-06 16:06 +1300
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-10 17:42 -0500
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-01-05 22:56 -0800
    Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-06 03:34 +0000
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-01-05 22:58 -0800
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-06 12:04 +0000
  Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-01-05 12:06 -0500
  Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-05 13:00 -0500
    Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-01-05 10:11 -0800
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-05 13:42 -0500
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-01-05 13:53 -0500
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-05 12:13 -0800
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-06 09:24 +1300
          Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-05 15:31 -0500
          Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-01-05 22:08 -0500
            Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-06 16:26 +1300
          Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-06 03:36 +0000
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 14:20 -0600
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-05 16:20 -0800
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-06 03:37 +0000
  Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-05 22:43 -0800
    Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-01-06 21:32 -0700
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2014-01-10 13:38 -0800
    Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-07 08:38 -0500
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-07 13:41 -0500
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-07 15:18 -0500
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-08 03:09 +0000
          Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-07 22:56 -0500
          Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-08 01:44 -0500
            Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-08 18:30 +0000
            Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-09 09:03 +1300
              Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2014-01-10 13:47 -0800
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put a MacBook Pro to a long sleep/hibernation (close its lid) and moving it for a long time (e.g., over a day) instead of powering off? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-10 19:51 -0500
  Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-07 03:02 +0000
    Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-01-07 06:18 -0800
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-09 17:20 +0000
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-09 23:25 +0000
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-01-10 11:44 -0800
          Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-11 19:06 +0000
      Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-09 19:14 +0000
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-01-09 22:29 +0000
        Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-10 09:28 +0000
          Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-10 10:25 -0500
            Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-11 07:26 +0000
              Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-11 10:50 -0500
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-11 13:57 -0800
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-11 22:24 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-11 23:10 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-11 15:12 -0800
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-12 00:28 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-11 17:54 -0800
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-12 01:57 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-12 09:17 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-12 22:05 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-12 04:56 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-12 05:16 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-12 18:38 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-12 22:07 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-12 22:28 -0500
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 14:51 +1100
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-13 04:28 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-13 05:46 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-13 02:49 -0500
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-13 15:48 +0000
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-01-14 00:41 -0800
                Re: Is it OK/safe to put an entire news article in the subject... billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-13 15:36 +0000

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