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Re: External HD Recommendation

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: External HD Recommendation
Date 2014-01-01 15:36 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnlc8dg3.oqs.g.kreme@amelia.local> (permalink)
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In message <jtc8c9l0mk15f8329chrngtg25ec9otsm6@4ax.com> 
  Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 09:45:26 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>In message <vce7c9tm8fa2n7g9rngpbms9e5ldag67n8@4ax.com> 
>>  Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:30:46 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
>>> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>
>>>>In message <1dv4c95dm2154g4o96634f865ut6sktgmv@4ax.com> 
>>>>  Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Dec 2013 19:56:41 -0800, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford
>>>>> daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J Burns wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I've come to like 2.5" disks.  Are there advantages to 3.5" disks?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's a very good question.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My take (and it could certainly be wrong): I'm thinking that 2.5"
>>>>>>> drives have come a long way, in that they've reached a point where
>>>>>>> they may actually be "more rugged" than 3.5" drives. My rationale is
>>>>>>> that 2.5" drives are designed to go into laptops, and designed to
>>>>>>> endure the jolts and bumps to which laptops are subject.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've had 3.5" drives fail. But I haven't had a failed 2.5" drive yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We've had a few 2.5" drives fail in the last few months.  We use them
>>>>>>in mirror pairs to hold the OS on some of our fileservers, so we
>>>>>>haven't lost any data since the failed ones were mirrored.  They (or
>>>>>>some of them anyway) may indeed be better at withstanding bumps such
>>>>>>as those a laptop suffers, though I feel a whole lot safer with an SSD
>>>>>>in my laptop.
>>>>
>>>>> SSDs wear out and are slower especially when it comes to writing.
>>>>
>>>>That takes decades with modern SSDs. They are MUCH more reliable than
>>>>spinny discs, and much faster.
>>
>>> SSDs are not used in servers due to the wear problem
>>
>>Certainly not true. SSDs are used all the time in servers because they
>>are faster and more reliable than spinny disks. Unless you need a lot of
>>space it would be foolish not to use SSDs.
>>
>>A company I work with has a web server with 6 120GB SSDs in a RAID-6.
>>That machine screams.
>>
>>Your information on wear problems is woefully out of date.
>>
>>> thought I did
>>> see an article where someone was claiming to b able to recover SSDs
>>> using very high temperatures.
>>
>>Next generation SSDs, if the heat mechanisms can be made to work
>>reliably, should have read/write cycles in the billions (at least)
>>making them the hands-down most reliable storage medium we’ve invented
>>so far. Current SSDs are in the hundreds of thousands of cycles.

> Good enough for domestic use but according to a recent article I saw
> the wear problem does not make them suitable for use in servers.

What article you saw where and how recent?

And whatever article it was, was wrong.

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External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-28 09:21 -0800
  Re: External HD Recommendation William Hanna <whanna@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-28 09:44 -0800
    Re: External HD Recommendation Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-12-29 09:37 -0800
      Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-29 10:08 -0800
        Re: External HD Recommendation android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-29 19:15 +0100
  Re: External HD Recommendation billy@MIX.COM - 2013-12-28 20:21 +0000
    Re: External HD Recommendation Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-28 14:59 -0800
      Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-28 15:28 -0800
        Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-28 20:17 -0500
        Re: External HD Recommendation Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-28 17:34 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-28 21:06 -0500
      Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-29 04:18 +0000
      Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:38 +0000
        Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-29 21:36 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-30 01:58 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 10:20 -0500
            Re: External HD Recommendation Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-12-31 07:32 -0800
              Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-31 11:46 -0500
          Re: External HD Recommendation Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-30 09:37 -0800
            Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 18:07 +0000
              Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-30 13:13 -0500
              Re: External HD Recommendation Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-30 10:27 -0800
                Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 14:15 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 22:43 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-30 18:09 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 22:34 -0500
            Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-30 13:54 -0600
              Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-30 13:14 -0800
              Re: External HD Recommendation Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-30 14:49 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 18:01 +0000
    Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-29 03:59 +0000
      Re: External HD Recommendation George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-29 07:47 -0600
  Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 17:52 -0500
  Re: External HD Recommendation Earl Grey <earl@t.net> - 2013-12-29 10:06 -0500
    Re: External HD Recommendation yellow label <here@there.was> - 2013-12-29 17:01 +0100
  Re: External HD Recommendation John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2013-12-29 16:27 -0500
    Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-29 21:29 -0500
      Re: External HD Recommendation claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2013-12-30 12:36 +0000
        Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-30 08:55 -0600
      Re: External HD Recommendation John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2013-12-30 10:29 -0500
        Re: External HD Recommendation Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-12-30 19:56 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-31 19:18 +1100
            Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-31 15:30 +0000
              Re: External HD Recommendation Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-12-31 07:34 -0800
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-01 17:51 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-01-01 10:14 -0600
                Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-01 17:39 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-02 11:54 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-02 01:09 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 20:38 -0700
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-02 16:47 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-09 08:13 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-08 21:19 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-02 02:35 +0000
              Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-01 17:47 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-01 02:24 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-02 02:38 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-01 11:55 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-01 13:34 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-01 19:01 -0800
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-01 09:45 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-02 02:28 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-01 15:36 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-01 11:55 -0500
  Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-29 16:00 -0600
    Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-29 22:01 +0000
      Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-29 16:19 -0600
        Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-29 14:45 -0800

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