Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31)

From	"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Newsgroups	rec.arts.tv
Subject	Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31)
Date	2021-11-01 15:18 +0000
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EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 08:09:57 -0600, Bill Idgerant <Noname@fake.net> wrote:

>>I did NOT watch The Rookie. The opening scene with the brother followed 
>>by the "spiritual cleansing" scene was enough. The Rookie has been prone 
>>to stupidity in the past, but it was clear that this Hallowe'en special 
>>episode was going to soar past all previous levels of stupid, so we 
>>bailed after a couple of minutes. DELETE!

>I quit watching it too.   it was never that good but this season has gone
>from not very good to ridiculous.   

>I just finished watching all of Firefly and the Serenity movie.  It boggles
>my mind that  Nathan Fillion show got canceled while crap like The Rookie is
>now in it's 4th season.

It's the difference in programming attitudes between Fox, the Big 3
networks, and the fifth networks.

Years ago, someone on a Webboard repeated what I thought was a valid
argument made by his friend criticizing "Serenity", the intended pilot
for Firefly, that it had too much exposition and the scenes introducing
each main character individually dragged. He thought Fox was right to
air it last, after it had cancelled the series and decided to leave
three episodes unaired. Unfortunately, one of the unaired episodes was
"Trash", which I thought was the best episode.

Instead, Fox gave the traditional network note for a Western tv
series: Your pilot shall open with a fist fight. Hence, "The Train Job",
an episode I found to be unimaginative.

In other words, Joss Whedon could have made a much better effort to hook
a generic tv audience and not write something for a science fiction
fanbase that's willing to watch paint dry if you give it an alien
setting. He could have written a pilot episode that immediately hooks
you on the story, with character background details and origins
dispersed throughout the first half of the season. Really, the only
characters that absolutely required background details were Mal and Zoe.
The Tams' background was a mystery to be revealed later anyway, so
clearly that could have been skipped.

And no, I wouldn't have written "The Train Job" so lamely.

I liked the Serenity post-series movie a lot, even though it was much
darker than the tv series. I appreciated that it was clearly within the
continuity and that it cleared up a lot of important background details,
such as how the hell Reavers existed.

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What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31 Bill Idgerant <Noname@fake.net> - 2021-11-01 08:09 -0600
  Re: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31 EGK <memyself@null.net> - 2021-11-01 10:15 -0400
    Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-11-01 15:18 +0000
      Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-01 10:55 -0700
        Re: Firefly lament "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-11-01 18:31 +0000
          Re: Firefly lament anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-01 21:04 -0700
            Re: Firefly lament "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-11-02 04:23 +0000
              Re: Firefly lament anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-01 22:09 -0700
        Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) EGK <memyself@null.net> - 2021-11-02 08:14 -0400
          Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-02 06:02 -0700
            Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) EGK <memyself@null.net> - 2021-11-02 09:25 -0400
              Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-02 10:22 -0700
                Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) EGK <memyself@null.net> - 2021-11-02 14:26 -0400
                Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-02 12:14 -0700
              Re: Firefly lament Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2021-11-03 05:04 -0400
          Re: Firefly lament Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2021-11-02 10:25 -0400
            Re: Firefly lament anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-02 09:50 -0700
            Re: Firefly lament Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> - 2021-11-13 16:28 +0100
              Re: Firefly lament anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-13 17:42 -0700
                Re: Firefly lament Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2021-11-13 19:15 -0800
                Re: Firefly lament Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> - 2021-11-14 13:36 +0100
          Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-11-02 16:54 +0000
            Re: Firefly lament (was: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31) anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-02 10:22 -0700
    Re: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31 anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-01 09:31 -0700
      Re: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31 Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> - 2021-11-01 14:01 -0700
        Re: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31 anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2021-11-01 16:35 -0700
  Re: What did you NOT watch? Sunday Oct 31 Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-01 23:53 +0000

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