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Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time

From David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com>
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Subject Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time
Date 2021-10-15 22:45 -0600
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On 2021-10-15 10:26 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 10/15/2021 3:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 10/14/2021 10:48 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
>>> I just ran across this article about an hour ago - it was published
>>> two days ago:
>>> https://bookriot.com/the-most-influential-sci-fi-books-of-all-time/
>>>
>>> I’ve added the full list below for those who don’t want to click/scroll.
>>>
>>> It’s strictly science fiction - so, for example, no Tolkien, or Stoker.
>>>
>>> To me, it’s a pretty well-considered and thorough list, especially 
>>> through
>>> the 1970s. There seems to be some recency bias and/or maybe some
>>> nods to emerging/micro-genres.
>>>
>>> On first blush, I’d say the only significant omissions are Doc Smith
>>> (surely) and CL Moore (probably). Whether you’d cite Skylark or
>>> Lensman, I think both were highly influential. Moore (with & without
>>> Kuttner) had a wide range of influential stuff too, of course.
>>>
>>> I also appreciated the inclusion of the various collections & serials,
>>> giving a nod both to how influential the authors/works were and to
>>> how influential short/serialized fiction was and is.
>>>
>>> Full list below,
>>> Tony
>>> ———————————————————————————
>>> Again: 
>>> https://bookriot.com/the-most-influential-sci-fi-books-of-all-time/
>>> The webpage has a 3-4 sentence description of each member of the list,
>>> including why it’s on the list. The items with a range of years are 
>>> either
>>> collections and/or the original material was originally serialized.
>>>
>>> Frankenstein - Mary Shelley (1818)
>>> Blake, or The Huts of America - Martin R. Delany (1859 - 1862)
>>> Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea - Jules Verne (1869)
>>> The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Robert Louis Stevenson 
>>> (1886)
>>> The Time Machine - H.G. Wells (1895)
>>> Of One Blood, or the Hidden Self - Pauline Hopkins (1902-1903)
>>> A Princess of Mars - Edgar Rice Burroughs (1912)
>>> We - Yevgeny Zamyatin (1924)
>>> Metropolis - Thea von Harbou (1925)
>>> Brave New World - Aldous Huxley (1932)
>>> The Collected Stories of Arthur C. Clarke (1937-1999)
>>> The Complete Robot - Isaac Asimov (1939-1977)
>>> Shadow Over Mars (aka Nemesis from Terra) - Leigh Brackett (1944)
>>> 1984 - George Orwell (1949)
>>> Astro Boy - Osamu Tezuka (1952-1968)
>>> Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury (1953)
>>> Starship Troopers - Robert A. Heinlein (1959)
>>> A Canticle for Leibowitz - Walter M. Miller (1959)
>>> A Wrinkle in Time - Madeleine L’Engle (1962)
>>> Dune - Frank Herbert (1965)
>>> Babel-17 - Samuel R. Delany (1966)
>>> Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K. Dick (1968)
>>> The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K. Le Guin (1969)
>>> Slaughterhouse-Five - Kurt Vonnegut (1969)
>>> Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang - Kate Wilhelm (1976)
>>> The Ultimate Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (1979-1992)
>>> Daughters of a Coral Dawn - Katherine V. Forrest (1984)
>>> Psion - Joan D. Vinge (1982)
>>> Vampire Hunter D - Hideyuki Kikuchi (1983 - present)
>>> Akira - Katsuhiro Otomo (1982-1990)
>>> Neuromancer - William Gibson (1984)
>>> The Handmaid’s Tale - Margaret Atwood (1985)
>>> Watchmen - Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons (1986-1987)
>>> Lilith’s Brood - Octavia E. Butler (1987-1989)
>>> Ghost in the Shell: Deluxe Complete Box Set - Masamune Shriow 
>>> (1989-1997)
>>> Jurassic Park - Michael Crichton (1990)
>>> Ring - Koji Suzuki (1991)
>>> Pretty Guardian Sailor moon - Naoko Takeuchi (1991-1997)
>>> The Thrawn Trilogy - Timothy Zahn (1991-1993)
>>> Ammonite - Nicola Griffith (1992)
>>> The Children of Men - PD James (1992)
>>> Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson (1992)
>>> Doomsday Book - Connie Willis (1992)
>>> Uzumaki - Junji Ito (1998-1999)
>>> A Civil Campaign - Lois McMaster Bujold (1999)
>>> Battle Royale - Koushun Takami (1999)
>>> Midnight Robber - Nalo Hopkinson (2000)
>>> Dark Matter: A Centruy of Speculative Fiction from the African 
>>> Diaspora - ed. by Sheree Renee Thomas (2000)
>>> The Three-Body Problem - Cixin Liu (2008)
>>> Leviathan Wakes - James S.A. Corey (2011)
>>> Cinder - Marissa Meyer (2012)
>>> The Imperial Radch Trilogy - Ann Leckie (2013-2016)
>>> Station Eleven - Emily St. John Mandel (2014)
>>> Area X: The Southern Reach Trilogy - Jeff Vandermeer (2014)
>>>
>>>  From here, the article’s author predicts some works from 2015 & later
>>> that may well become influential. I didn’t add those works here.
>>
>> The fact that the list does not mention Perry Rhodan, David Weber, or 
>> John Ringo makes the list very suspect in my mind.
> 
> And the single Heinlein book mentioned is not one of his three best, 
> "The Star Beast", "Citizen Of The Galaxy", and "The Moon Is A Harsh 
> Mistress".
> 
> Lynn
> 

Starship Troopers does have the biggest modern day fandom though.

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                Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2021-10-21 21:55 -0700
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    Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 18:16 -0700
      Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 21:03 -0500
        Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2021-10-16 02:31 +0000
          Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 22:03 -0500
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          Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 23:21 -0500
            Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2021-10-16 08:40 -0700
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