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Re: Tricky ...

From "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Tricky ...
Date 2021-10-02 00:52 -0700
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On 10/2/2021 12:31 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 10/1/2021 6:08 AM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>> On 2021-10-01, Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Am 30.09.2021 um 22:20 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>>> On 9/30/2021 3:39 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>> That's a bit vague. One can create highly efficient bidirectional
>>>>>> communication between two threads using two wait-free
>>>>>> single-producer/single-consumer queues without using any atomic
>>>>>> RMW's, just atomic loads, stores, and some some cleverly placed 
>>>>>> membars.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you use wait-free or lock-free algorithms and there's no data
>>>>> you have to poll.
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Because you don't have to wait in the kernel.
>>>
>> If you don't spin it is not lock :P
> 
> True. Hitting the fast path is very nice indeed!
> 
>> problem is that only way you don't synchronize
>> is when things are *independent* from each other :P
>>
> 
> Well, sometimes one can do other things instead of spinning/waiting, 
> even in a mutex locked condition. Its an interesting simple logic loop. 
> You have probably seen it before.
> 
Off the top of my head, here is some crude pseudocode to try to get 
across what I am referring to, verbose and not very pretty, fairly 
simple wrt a way to lock a mutex. This was from a long time ago. Fairly 
adaptive:
___________________________
for (unsigned long i = 0; i < 42; ++i)
{
   if (try_lock()) return;
   if (! try_to_do_something_else()) break;
}

lock();
___________________________

We can try to do other things before we actually wait on the lock. It 
does work, in certain setups.


This logic above is the most basic I can break it down to.

Even something that simple can help get things done, "quicker" so to 
speak. The thread tries to do something else, before it waits. It can be 
made to work. And if it fits in with the code at hand, the use case, the 
system we are working on, well, it can be good!

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      Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-24 18:48 -0700
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          Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 07:24 +0200
            Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 12:28 +0000
              Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 15:57 +0200
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 13:59 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 16:09 +0200
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                Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 19:15 +0200
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 17:22 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 05:46 +0200
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:19 -0700
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                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:04 -0700
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                Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 03:33 +0200
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  Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 00:18 -0700
    Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 14:44 +0200
      Re: Tricky ... red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2021-09-27 10:54 -0700
        Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 14:10 -0700
      Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 14:06 -0700
        Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 16:09 -0700
          Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 06:57 +0200
            Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 22:28 -0700
              Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 08:33 +0200
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                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 17:14 -0700
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                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 22:12 -0700
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                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:42 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 18:11 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 02:20 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2021-10-07 22:26 +1300
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-08 14:07 -0700
      Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 13:07 +0000
        Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:08 -0700
          Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 20:54 +0000
            Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0700
              Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 21:07 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 14:51 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:44 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-08 13:05 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-09 07:29 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-09 19:55 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-11 05:21 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 13:49 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 20:29 -0700

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