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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet

From 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart>
Newsgroups sci.crypt, alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet
Date 2021-09-30 08:17 -0500
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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References <sj1rna$144n$1@gioia.aioe.org> <20210929162552.4d50e625606f2cfa30c3f5f1@eircom.net>

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On 9/29/21 10:25 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 09:04:16 -0500
> 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> wrote:
> 
>> I've heard many times that Usenet is dead.
> 
> 	There is a branch of USENET that's alive and kicking that funds a
> number of commercial NNTP servers with enormous retention times (multiple
> years), a large catalogue of binary groups and some very odd posting
> arrangements. But that's not really USENET it's file sharing by NNTP.
> 
> 	I keep getting tempted to run up a text only server here but
> managing misbehaving users is a PITA.
> 

Indeed. That's why I am hesitating to set up a open NNTP
server--managing the rabble is a tedious job. I really want to set one
up, but I really do not want to commit to all the daily janitorial work.

If we had Usenet hierarchies that could require proof of work from
clients, sort of like Bitmessage does, or imposed post limits based on
signing keys that require a long time to generate one signing key, that
could mitigate a lot of the spam and trolling.

But then we get into the need for re-factoring client software and all
the associated boondoggle.

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SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-29 09:04 -0500
  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:44 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:44 -0400
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:25 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 14:03 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-09-30 23:36 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 20:20 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-09-30 14:45 -1000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-01 06:30 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 14:48 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-01 13:47 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-01 17:56 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 11:41 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:07 -0400
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 20:49 +0100
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:03 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-02 10:49 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 15:13 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 13:34 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 20:04 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:50 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-03 05:52 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2021-10-20 00:00 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:13 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:48 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-02 22:23 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 16:07 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:06 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:55 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 22:17 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-03 08:15 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:29 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-02 07:53 -1000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2021-10-02 18:58 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:27 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2021-10-03 15:34 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 01:05 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-10-02 20:04 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-04 14:17 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-04 16:42 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-04 17:17 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 16:38 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 16:10 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 00:11 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 08:31 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 11:34 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-05 17:31 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-10-06 09:31 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-08 18:53 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 17:41 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 20:58 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 06:38 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 01:26 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 08:12 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 03:41 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-05 23:04 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 06:48 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-05 14:17 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 23:03 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-06 04:58 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 00:59 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 16:00 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2021-11-25 20:13 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-26 04:02 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-10-01 23:19 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-09-30 18:38 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-30 19:26 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-09-30 21:39 +0200
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-01 21:32 +0200
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 20:31 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 21:24 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 11:12 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:09 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-02 18:32 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 20:41 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:40 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-03 13:31 +0200
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 05:15 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 05:27 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-03 13:35 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 07:07 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-03 23:06 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-03 16:25 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 10:00 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-04 14:09 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-03 22:57 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-04 14:06 +0200
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-04 14:11 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-05 10:28 +0200
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 10:44 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-04 14:21 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 15:29 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-05 11:04 +0200
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet lawrence@cluon.com (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-10-04 13:42 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ulick Magee <ulickmagee@feckoff.invalid> - 2021-11-09 23:55 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-11-09 20:44 -0600
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 06:22 +0100
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 14:55 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 17:19 +0100
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:13 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 17:30 -0400
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-10-01 18:27 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jakob Bohm <jb-usenet@wisemo.com.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:46 +0200
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 21:26 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-10-02 01:12 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 11:08 +0000
  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 16:25 +0100
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:17 -0500
  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2021-09-29 15:56 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-09-29 17:22 +0100
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:23 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:22 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-30 13:27 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 12:58 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-30 19:12 +0100
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 13:16 -0700
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 15:59 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 17:38 -0700
  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-29 17:36 +0000
  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 22:32 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:25 -0500
  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 10:57 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-10-02 22:07 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:07 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 11:46 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-03 18:14 +0100
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:35 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 10:45 -0700
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 14:28 -0400
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2021-10-06 15:55 +0300
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-06 14:35 +0100
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 00:37 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-07 07:04 +0100
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 18:30 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-07 08:47 -0400
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-07 13:07 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:16 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-08 00:08 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:50 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 09:32 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:38 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2021-10-07 17:42 +0300
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:26 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 23:44 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:23 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-08 01:27 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:56 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-08 01:58 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-07 20:01 -0700
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-08 00:54 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 12:23 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 13:35 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-12 16:16 -0700
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 09:38 -0500

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