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Re: Tricky ...

From "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Tricky ...
Date 2021-09-30 01:19 -0700
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On 9/29/2021 11:16 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 30.09.2021 um 06:57 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>> On 9/28/2021 3:05 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> Am 28.09.2021 um 09:03 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>>> On 9/27/2021 11:33 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>> Am 28.09.2021 um 07:28 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>>>>> On 9/27/2021 9:57 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 28.09.2021 um 01:09 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>>>>>>> On 9/27/2021 2:06 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/27/2021 5:44 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.09.2021 um 09:18 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2021 1:43 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In some code I've to check different sates for which an 
>>>>>>>>>>>> exception might
>>>>>>>>>>>> be thrown. These states are all true or false so I combined 
>>>>>>>>>>>> them to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> four bit pattern wich I used as an index to a table which 
>>>>>>>>>>>> stores the
>>>>>>>>>>>> strings of the out_of_range exception to be trown or a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> nullptr if the
>>>>>>>>>>>> state isn't associated with an out of range condition. This 
>>>>>>>>>>>> helps me
>>>>>>>>>>>> to prevent some if-else-cascades and speeds up the code.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So this is the complete function but i put two empty lines 
>>>>>>>>>>>> around the
>>>>>>>>>>>> code I mentioned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> void dual_monitor::wait( bool b )
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      } while( !m_flagAndCounters.compare_exchange_weak( cmp, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> chg, memory_order_release, memory_order_relaxed ) );
>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Humm... For some reason I feel the need for 
>>>>>>>>>>> std::memory_order_acq_rel here wrt the cas. ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, you only write nonsense. When I wait the lock is released,
>>>>>>>>>> so it's release-consistency.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You always write nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Decrementing a semaphore requires acquire semantics. 
>>>>>>>>> Incrementing a semaphore requires release semantics. Trying to 
>>>>>>>>> do both at once in a single atomic operation requires 
>>>>>>>>> acquire/release semantics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I still need to port it to Relacy, but it seems like you need 
>>>>>>>>> acq_rel here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Think about it... Waiting for something, implies acquire semantics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, when I release a lock and could have modified data,
>>>>>>> I need release-semantics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, how can one utilize dual_monitor::wait? Does it wait on 
>>>>>> something?
>>>>>
>>>>> Its like waiting on a condvar, which might have modified any data
>>>>> before.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking along those lines. However, waiting on a condvar 
>>>> involves several steps. It also involves reacquiring the mutex...
>>>
>>> With what I do the reacquisition is done by the side that unlocks the
>>> mutex. It simply keeps the locked-flag while unlocking and sets the
>>> visitor-event.
>>
>> Where are your example use cases for dual_monitor? ...
> 
> It's usable when two threads communicate bidirectional.

That's a bit vague. One can create highly efficient bidirectional 
communication between two threads using two wait-free 
single-producer/single-consumer queues without using any atomic RMW's, 
just atomic loads, stores, and some some cleverly placed membars. Now, 
if one needs to be able to wait on them, well that's a different story. 
This makes me think about eventcounts; I have plenty of experience with 
those. God I am getting older. Actually, I am wondering if you happen to 
be familiar with the good ol' two lock queue? I first saw it decades ago:

https://www.cs.rochester.edu/~scott/papers/1996_PODC_queues.pdf

A classic! The queues in that paper are well known in lock-free 
circles... Beware... There are subtle memory lifetime issues that can 
occur in the lock-free version. Basically, the same horror show that can 
occur in a lock-free stack. Its not just ABA, its making sure that the 
memory is valid for a certain operation. Iirc, Windows does something 
funky with SEH to get this to work in their SList API.

;^)

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        Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 06:55 +0200
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              Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 02:31 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 20:14 -0700
            Re: Tricky ... Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 08:33 +0200
              Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 00:06 -0700
  Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:09 -0700
    Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 13:00 -0700
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        Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:11 -0700
          Re: Tricky ... RadicalRabbit@theburrow.co.uk - 2021-10-03 08:25 +0000
            Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:21 -0700
              Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 21:06 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 14:33 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:42 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 18:11 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 02:20 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2021-10-07 22:26 +1300
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-08 14:07 -0700
      Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 13:07 +0000
        Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:08 -0700
          Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 20:54 +0000
            Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0700
              Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 21:07 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 14:51 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:44 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-08 13:05 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-09 07:29 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-09 19:55 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-11 05:21 +0000
                Re: Tricky ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 13:49 -0700
                Re: Tricky ... "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 20:29 -0700

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