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Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs!

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On 9/18/2016 12:18 PM, davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 18 September 2016 02:05:42 Shervin Emami wrote:
>>> At "www.debian.org" I clicked on "Getting Debian", and then to
>>> get a net
>>> install image there are 3 different pages that all have direct
>>> links to the
>>> ISO files, but no link at all about how to get the MD5sums.
>>> Even the Verify
>>> page doesn't show how to find the MD5sums. So I think it will
>>> help many
>>> users if there can be a link to the MD5sum file at these 4 pages:
>>>
>>>     https://www.debian.org/distrib/
>>>     https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
>>>     https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>>>     https://www.debian.org/CD/verify
>>>
>>> I was looking for amd64 netinstall but it seems the problem
>>> exists for all
>>> architectures and both for netinstall or CD. So adding a few
>>> links could
>>> help quite a few beginners!
>>
>> Not just beginners.  I too find it a nightmare, and sometimes
>> give up.  If you
>> look at the raw HTML you can extract the URL of the download
>> directory and
>> they are indeed there - it is finding the directory which is
>> hard, because
>> the link just says "click here" or something, and if you click
>> it immediately
>> begins downloading.  You never see the directory.
>>
>> One of the developers has raised this as a bug.
>
> Four things:
>
> 1. Can anyone provide a link to this bug report?

*VERY IMPORTANT* !

>
> 2. If you view page source to figure out what url a link points
> to, I suspect that either
>   1) you find page source inherently  fascinating,

I am not Lisi, but I find that OFFENSIVE!

>  or
> 2) your browser does not provide an easier method for obtaining that
> information.
>
> A web browser without a status line that displays the url pointed to
> by the current link is like a car with an opaque windscreen. IMHO.

Who is target audience of the link?
   1. some GEEK
   2. Some John/Jane Q. Public who has *HEARD* that Linux > Windows?

>
> Firefox does not lack this feature. Neither does lynx (though lynx
> must be set to "advanced" mode to enable it).
>
> Are you sure your browser does not have a similar feature that
> can be
> enabled?

SEE question above.

>
> 3. What web browser does not enable editing the current link?
>
> In firefox, one can right-click on a link, select "Copy link
> location"
> from a menu, and then paste the link into the location bar for
> editing. It is easier in lynx, where one simply hits 'E' (or
> whatever
> key is bound to the command :ELGOTO) to edit a link.

SEE above.

>
> 4. This thread prompted me look up how one can contribute to
> Debian's
> web pages. It looks like interested parties can begin here:
>
>   "Helping with the Debian web pages"
>   https://www.debian.org/devel/website/
>

Did you know Debian has a "wiki".

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Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Shervin Emami <shervin.emami@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 02:00 +0200
  Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! "der.hans" <deb-user@LuftHans.com> - 2016-09-18 02:50 +0200
    Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Shervin Emami <shervin.emami@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 03:30 +0200
      Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 13:50 +0200
        Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 19:20 +0200
          Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 19:30 +0200
          Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-09-18 20:50 +0200
            Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 21:30 +0200
              Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Francesco Ariis <fa-ml@ariis.it> - 2016-09-18 22:20 +0200
            Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 22:50 +0200
            Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 23:40 +0200
              Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-09-19 12:40 +0200
          Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 21:20 +0200
  Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-09-18 03:10 +0200

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