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Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs!

From davidson@freevolt.org
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs!
Date 2016-09-18 21:20 +0200
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TLDR: links to pertinent bug reports:

#381555 - http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ : add link to iso md5 cheksum
  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=381555

#640054 - Download pages should have prominent links to image verification instructions
  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640054

#612116 - www.debian.org: /CD/ should now redirect to the new /distrib/
  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612116

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016, davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 18 September 2016 02:05:42 Shervin Emami wrote:
>>> At "www.debian.org" I clicked on "Getting Debian", and then to get a net
>>> install image there are 3 different pages that all have direct links to 
>>> the
>>> ISO files, but no link at all about how to get the MD5sums. Even the 
>>> Verify
>>> page doesn't show how to find the MD5sums. So I think it will help many
>>> users if there can be a link to the MD5sum file at these 4 pages:
>>>
>>>     https://www.debian.org/distrib/
>>>     https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
>>>     https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>>>     https://www.debian.org/CD/verify
>>> 
>>> I was looking for amd64 netinstall but it seems the problem exists for all
>>> architectures and both for netinstall or CD. So adding a few links could
>>> help quite a few beginners!
>> 
>> Not just beginners.  I too find it a nightmare, and sometimes give up.  If 
>> you
>> look at the raw HTML you can extract the URL of the download directory and
>> they are indeed there - it is finding the directory which is hard, because
>> the link just says "click here" or something, and if you click it 
>> immediately
>> begins downloading.  You never see the directory.
>> 
>> One of the developers has raised this as a bug.
>
> Four things:
>
> 1. Can anyone provide a link to this bug report?

Having done some browsing at

  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=www.debian.org

the following three bug reports all pertain to this thread, one way or
another:

#381555 - http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ : add link to iso md5 cheksum
  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=381555

#640054 - Download pages should have prominent links to image verification instructions
  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640054

#612116 - www.debian.org: /CD/ should now redirect to the new /distrib/
  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612116

My guess is that the first of these is what Lisi referred to.

Interestingly, if I am reading the thread under #381555 correctly*,
three years ago someone submitted a patch for the page located here

  www.debian.org/CD/netinst

that addressed the issue of where to find checksums associated with
the linked iso files,

  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=381555#17

but the patch, as submitted, required some edits,

  bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=381555#24

and AFAICT the page that was to be patched (namely, CD/netinst)
remains unpatched. (So, I guess, the patch slipped through a
do-acratic crack and never got edited?)

Currently that same CD/netinst page does link to the CD FAQ (so
called). And that FAQ page, in turn, contains an answer

  www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify

which someone encountering the OP's difficulty would likely consult.

Unfortunately that particular answer also fails to provide hints about
where to obtain the appropriate checksum files.

* Bug threads being a genre that taxes my reading comprehension, for
   some reason.

-- 
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> Talking to yourself is a bad habit for a dungeoneer.

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Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Shervin Emami <shervin.emami@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 02:00 +0200
  Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! "der.hans" <deb-user@LuftHans.com> - 2016-09-18 02:50 +0200
    Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Shervin Emami <shervin.emami@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 03:30 +0200
      Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 13:50 +0200
        Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 19:20 +0200
          Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 19:30 +0200
          Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-09-18 20:50 +0200
            Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 21:30 +0200
              Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Francesco Ariis <fa-ml@ariis.it> - 2016-09-18 22:20 +0200
            Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 22:50 +0200
            Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 23:40 +0200
              Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-09-19 12:40 +0200
          Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-18 21:20 +0200
  Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs! Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-09-18 03:10 +0200

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