Re: Sound on Jessie

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Sound on Jessie
Date	2016-09-18 12:20 +0200
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On Sat 17 Sep 2016 at 20:10:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-09-17 11:56 (UTC+0100):
> 
> >Alan McConnell wrote:
> 
> >>Alas for the days of wheezy, when everything _worked_!!
> 
> >Wheezy is LTS (though admittedly more successfully for servers), so if
> >everything Just Worked, and you liked it, why did you change?  There are
> >indeed valid reasons, but what is yours?
> 
> I sense Alan expects everyone here has read and remembers every post he has
> written. He told us his, though indirectly:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00296.html
> 
> Synopsis:
> Wheezy was on old puter, with mature hardware supported by FOSS.
> Jessie is on new (unspecified model) Dell (with Win10), with unknown
> hardware with unknown FOSS support.

Contrasting the behaviour of machine A with machine B (worked on my old
machine, works fine with Windows etc) and indulging in nostalgia is only
of passing interest when the objective is to get an aspect of machine A
to function. If is like telling a doctor you ran a marathon every week
twenty years ago when the present issue is having two broken legs.

> New puter's design date is *probably* newer than Jessie, which would mean
> problems can be *expected*, because he's not tried an OS that's newer than
> his puter, such as Stretch.
> 
> Win10 works without problems because Dell made sure of it. Dell didn't do
> that with Jessie or any other Debian, and probably with no other Linux
> either.

Information about the audio card can be extracted from the output of
'lspci -v'. It could even be publicised here as an a aid to diagnosis.

ALSA is built into the kernel so it is fruitless expecting to find
packages to install it. However 'lsmod | grep snd' would be useful for
people to see.

> If Alan wants serious help, he needs to stop keeping his hardware info
> secret. Ordinarily I would expect he could share the copious output provided
> by alsa-info.sh, but it seems to be absent from Jessie, so he would need to
> find it elsewhere in order to run it, e.g.:
> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a59c5f2edf8a61119a94d34a5d8afc13703f0b71

Pulseaudio is sometimes thought to be the culprit in audio issues. It
can be taken out of the picture with 'apt-get purge pulseaudio'
(reinstatement is easy) and any other sound-related packages installed
in an endeavour to solve the problem also purged.

Besides the nature of the hardware a bunch of users would be interested
in its capabilities. 'aplay -L' and 'amixer' would go some way to
satisfying their curiosity.

Meanwhile, the device might spring into life and consequently the four
outputs of interest would not be needed.

-- 
Brian.

Thread

Sound on jessie Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-16 19:50 +0200
  Re: Sound on jessie steef <debian.linux@home.nl> - 2016-09-16 20:40 +0200
  Re: Sound on jessie Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-16 21:00 +0200
    Re: Sound on jessie deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 09:00 +0200
      Re: Sound on jessie Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-17 09:40 +0200
      Re: Sound on jessie Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-17 10:00 +0200
        Re: Sound on jessie rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-09-17 15:10 +0200
          Re: Sound on jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:00 +0200
      Re: Sound on jessie Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-17 14:20 +0200
        Re: Sound on jessie Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-17 15:50 +0200
          Re: Sound on jessie Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:40 +0200
          Re: Sound on jessie deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 18:20 +0200
            Re: Sound on jessie Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-17 18:50 +0200
              Re: Sound on jessie Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-17 21:50 +0200
                Re: Sound on jessie Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-17 23:00 +0200
                Re: Sound on jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:10 +0200
                Re: Sound on jessie deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 01:10 +0200
            Re: Sound on jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:00 +0200
              Re: Sound on jessie deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0200
                Re: Sound on jessie Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-09-18 14:10 +0200
                Re: Sound on jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 20:20 +0200
          Re: Sound on jessie Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-17 19:20 +0200
          Re: Sound on jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:00 +0200
            Re: Sound on Jessie Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-18 02:20 +0200
              Re: Sound on Jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 12:20 +0200
                Re: Sound on Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 14:00 +0200
                Re: Sound on Jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 19:50 +0200
            Re: Sound on Jessie Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-18 02:20 +0200
            Re: Sound on jessie Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-18 15:40 +0200

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