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Re: What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?

From	John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?
Date	2021-09-18 18:20 +0000
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It appears that Ahem A Rivet's Shot  <steveo@eircom.net> said:
>On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 04:07:50 -0000 (UTC)
>John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>
>> According to Branimir Maksimovic  <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com>:
>> >> You can still run programs compiled on a 360 on the latest “z” box.
>> >>
>> >Why?
>> 
>> Because they are still useful?  Is this a trick question?
>
>	I suppose the real question is why not recompile them to take
>advantage of the newer hardware.

A lot of 360 software was written in assembler.  I gather a fair amount still is.
For some they still have the source, some they don't, but even if they do, it's assembler.

The newer hardware has bigger addresses and some more instructions but they don't run any faster.
If you look at the zSeries principles of operation you can see the many hacks they invented to
let old 24 bit addresss 360 code work with more modern 31 and 64 bit code.

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