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Re: Triangulation Cryptography.- The Triangle model is Merely the Box That the Ciphertext Travels In'

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On 17/09/2021 14:25, austin obyrne wrote:
> It appears that some readers are mistakenly thinking that the
> intractability of my cipher comes from not knowing how the
> ciphertext vector V3 is resolved into the unique pair of
> components that comprise the hidden operands of the
> decryption scheme.
> 
> They wrongly think it can be brute forced. That is impossible

Austin, we've heard you say "impossible" so often, but there is a pile 
of "impossible" decryptions all around you which you keep ignoring in 
the hope we can't see them. We can..

> however. The side called V1 has been mathematically compounded
>   and is an intractable key. Also, it is not the only key.

It doesn't matter. We just need enough messages all encrypted the same 
way and we can hand you your plaintext on a plate. This is partly 
because you encrypt one character at a time but mostly because you don't 
understand the importance of diffusion.


> NB. Counting V1 as a single key there are * three more hidden
> keys that are just as intractable and which must be found so
> as to achieve correct step-by-step serial decryption by Bob..

Bob, sure. But we're not Bob. We're Eve.

Eve cheats. Eve is sneaky. Eve is inventive. Eve finds other ways.

Eve doesn't need your keys.

> Furthermore, it is totally wrong to think that V1 in the triangle
> can be found by brute force and that correct decryption
> immediately follows with just some simple steps.

You can say that till you're blue in the face, but we've seen the 
"impossible" decryptions.

> No, there are three more impossible-to-guess inversion functions
>   before decryption is correctly realised by Bob.

That's Bob's problem, not Eve's problem.

> Comment:
> 
> In any case:
> 
> 'Brute force' is a search engine

Not really. A search engine is something else - a tool for trawling 
through the Web. Yes, you can use the words "search engine" to describe 
brute force but it's like using the words "tyre lever" to describe a 
steering wheel; it's just not what we commonly use those words for, so 
you're asking to be misunderstood.

> that must be told when to stop
> searching i.e. when some prescribed condition is fulfilled.
> That is not possible here by adversaries..

That's the same for any Eve decryption. It's amazing how often Eve 
manages it anyway. And if Eve can do it sometimes (which we know she 
can), it is clearly possible.

> Most claims for successful brute force fail at that juncture
> i.e. It is impossible to write a program for a search engine
> if the terminating condition cannot be provided. It follows
> there is no search engine. That is the case here

Since you can only encrypt a limited subset of ASCII, a trial decrypt 
that results only in ASCII 32-126 is a fair bet for closer inspection.

That ridiculous limitation of yours actually therefore makes far easier 
Eve's job of defining a terminating condition for her program.

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Triangulation Cryptography.- The Triangle model is Merely the Box That the Ciphertext Travels In' austin obyrne <ao402468@gmail.com> - 2021-09-17 06:25 -0700
  Re: Triangulation Cryptography.- The Triangle model is Merely the Box That the Ciphertext Travels In' Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-09-17 15:35 +0100
    Re: Triangulation Cryptography.- The Triangle model is Merely the Box That the Ciphertext Travels In' Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> - 2021-09-17 17:01 +0200
      Re: Triangulation Cryptography.- The Triangle model is Merely the Box That the Ciphertext Travels In' Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-17 20:34 +0000
        Re: Triangulation Cryptography.- The Triangle model is Merely the Box That the Ciphertext Travels In' Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> - 2021-09-17 22:53 +0200

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