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Re: reentrant, What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?

From	John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: reentrant, What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?
Date	2021-09-12 00:02 +0000
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According to Thomas Koenig  <tkoenig@netcologne.de>:
>> You could have reentrant programs on S/360, too, but they had to be coded
>> as reentrant. I believe all HLLs would generate reentrant code, unless you
>> deliberately wrote them to be otherwise.
>
>Fortran was not reentrant (at least not by default), it used the
>standard OS/360 linkage convention.

You could write reentrant code that used the standard linkage scheme, but
it was fiddly and used more conventions about handling the dynamic storage areas.

Fortran and Cobol were never reentrant. PL/I could be if you used the
REENTRANT option in your source code. The PL/I programmers' guides
have examples of calling reentrant and non-reentrant assembler code.

My impression is that most reentrant code was written in assembler and preloaded
at IPL time to be used as shared libraries.

-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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