Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

From	Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
Date	2016-09-16 05:10 +0200
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:43:02PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi Dutch,
> I am not sure I agree with the java script focus.  after all that site will
> work in lynx, when I turn off the send user agent header option, just like I
> suggested to Hans.
> why would  it work in a non graphical environment with lynx,  if I take the
> above referenced step if Java script is not  involved under those
> circumstances?
> I cannot say as to the graphical ones, I do not have them.
> 


No, it is likely the user agent string.  If I set links' user agent
string to fake firefox, the site will load.


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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
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> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 07:57:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > Hi Dutch,
> > > 
> > > Something told me to try my example again  before I shared it, try this in
> > > links.
> > > 
> > > www.healingwiththemasters.com
> > > I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error.
> > 
> > Yes, I get the same thing.  Note that if you turn off javascript on your
> > full-graphical browser (Firefox, etc), that same site will not
> > error-out, but will likely not display anything, either.
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> > > As for Walmart.com allowing the links browser, I am afraid that matters not
> > > as   I am in Canada and my reference is to the Canadian site.
> > > My speech  states that the issue is a cookies one,  providing the offer of
> > > viewing the flyer without cookies.
> > > I will check your resource for the user agent question.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Karen
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > Hi Dutch,
> > > > > The forbidden site issue I encounter  is not the one Hans referenced, but
> > > > > others.
> > > > > take
> > > > > masterworkshealing.com
> > > > 
> > > > I can visit that site with links.
> > > > 
> > > > > for example,
> > > > > So the idea would be an option  that I could change, as I directed Hans to
> > > > > make a  short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx.
> > > > > I realize naturally there are times when the  user agent header needs to be
> > > > > sent.  Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent.  what about in
> > > > > links though?
> > > > 
> > > > See http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subch-network-options
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > As for storing cookies,  indeed,  I am wondering what to do if I try
> > > > > visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser will not
> > > > > accept cookies...as in literary says as much.
> > > > > for example,
> > > > > www.walmart.ca
> > > > > will not even move forward in links for this reason.
> > > > 
> > > > On my machine, that site is not viewable in the standard links config due to
> > > > lack of javascript, not cookies.  Interestingly, walmart.com doesn't have that
> > > > issue.
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> > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user agent
> > > > > header question, or the cookies one?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Karen
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Dutch,
> > > > > > > Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links.
> > > > > > > first, does the browser still not accept cookies?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links does
> > > > > > not store and set cookies.  This post [1] seems to make a distinction, though,
> > > > > > between persistent cookies and volatile cookies.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden  site
> > > > > > > problem?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I do not know if I can alter the send user agent  command in links.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location
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> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Links is no longer updated,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Where did you get this information?  As far as I can see, links was updated on
> > > > > > > > July 1, 2016.[1][2]  Does that qualify as "no longer updated"?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser)
> > > > > > > > [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/
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Thread

lynx - not all sites readable Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-09-14 22:20 +0200
  Re: lynx - not all sites readable Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-09-14 22:30 +0200
    Re: lynx - not all sites readable Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 01:20 +0200
      Re: lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-15 02:10 +0200
        Re: lynx - not all sites readable Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-09-15 08:40 +0200
          Re: lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-15 16:40 +0200
            Re: lynx - not all sites readable Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-09-15 16:50 +0200
              Re: lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-15 17:00 +0200
              Re: lynx - not all sites readable davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-16 02:10 +0200
  Re: lynx - not all sites readable Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-14 23:10 +0200
    Re: lynx - not all sites readable Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2016-09-14 23:50 +0200
      Re: lynx - not all sites readable David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 02:10 +0200
      Re: lynx - not all sites readable Andre Majorel <aym-naibed@teaser.fr> - 2016-09-15 10:50 +0200
        Re: lynx - not all sites readable Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-09-15 11:10 +0200
          Re: lynx - not all sites readable Andre Majorel <aym-naibed@teaser.fr> - 2016-09-15 12:20 +0200
          Re: lynx - not all sites readable David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 18:50 +0200
        Re: lynx - not all sites readable Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-15 12:00 +0200
        Re: lynx - not all sites readable Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2016-09-15 12:40 +0200
          Re: lynx - not all sites readable Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-15 22:40 +0200
            Re: lynx - not all sites readable Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2016-09-16 11:40 +0200
            Re: lynx - not all sites readable Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2016-09-16 12:30 +0200
        Re: lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-15 15:50 +0200
          Re: lynx - not all sites readable Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-15 17:30 +0200
            Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-15 22:50 +0200
              Re: Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-16 00:10 +0200
                Re: Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-16 01:00 +0200
                Re: Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-16 01:40 +0200
                Re: Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-16 02:00 +0200
                Re: Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-16 02:50 +0200
                Re: Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-16 04:50 +0200
                Re: Links browser, was  lynx - not all sites readable Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-16 05:10 +0200
                Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable Johann Spies <johann.spies@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 09:10 +0200
    Re: lynx - not all sites readable Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-09-15 14:20 +0200
      Re: lynx - not all sites readable Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2016-09-15 16:10 +0200
  Re: lynx - not all sites readable Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-14 23:10 +0200
  Re: lynx - not all sites readable emetib <chadbrabec@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 01:40 +0200
  Re: lynx - not all sites readable jeremy bentham <dnw@eskimo.com> - 2016-09-16 04:50 +0200

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