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Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct?

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On 02/08/2021 19:12, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Ian Pilcher <arequipeno@gmail.com> writes:
>> Given the following:
>>
>>    struct foo {
>>        /* other members */
>>        char prefix[PREFIX_SIZE];
>>        char name[];
>>    };
>>
>> Is there any circumstance in which the compiler is permitted to insert
>> padding between the 'prefix' and 'name' members?
>>
>> I'm 99% sure than the answer is no, but I've been unable to track down
>> the actual rules anywhere.
> 
> I'm 99% sure the answer is "always".
> 
> Compilers typically insert padding only when it's necessary to meet
> alignment requirements, but compilers are allowed to insert arbitrary
> padding between members.
> 

But not for no reason, surely? And not when #pragma pack(1) is in effect.

And whatever padding might be inserted, the same rules must be in effect 
across all compilers for that platform, otherwise functions in modules 
and in external libraries created with mixed compilers can't call each 
other.

Since I am familiar with duplicating with layout of C structs from 
outside the language, to the extent of also duplicating the algorithms 
for alignment and padding, this would be an impossible task if 
effectively random padding could be inserted.

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Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Ian Pilcher <arequipeno@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 12:48 -0500
  Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-08-02 14:07 -0400
    Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 11:25 -0700
      Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-08-02 19:21 -0400
  Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-08-02 19:11 +0100
    Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 11:27 -0700
      Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-08-02 20:43 +0100
        Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:11 -0700
          Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:18 -0700
          Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:31 -0700
            Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2021-08-02 19:50 -0700
              Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-08-04 14:01 +0200
        Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:19 -0700
        Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2021-08-03 10:40 -0500
          Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2021-08-03 09:10 -0700
            Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2021-08-03 12:52 -0500
              Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2021-08-04 12:05 -0500
  Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 11:12 -0700
    Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-08-02 19:23 +0100
      Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:15 -0700
  Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2021-08-02 11:32 -0700
  Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Ian Pilcher <arequipeno@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:59 -0500
    Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-08-02 12:47 -0700
      Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Ian Pilcher <arequipeno@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 15:27 -0500
        Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:36 -0700
        Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2021-08-02 21:52 +0000
    Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 13:22 -0700
      Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-08-04 17:01 +0200
        Re: Padding between char array/VLA in struct? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-08-04 10:11 -0700

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