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| From | Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups |
| Date | 2021-07-16 15:33 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <scs8s3$29j$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <scncn6$3gief$2@news.xmission.com> <scnfs0$qth$1@dont-email.me> <scorht$3oe$1@gioia.aioe.org> <scpifs$9gm$1@dont-email.me> <scrjon$bh5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 09:33:11 +0000, MrSpud_8nnwe wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:59:08 -0000 (UTC) > Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote: >>I quickly found that Xlib alone wasn't conducive to effective programming; I >>need >>a widget set or toolkit. But, I haven't abandoned Xlib; I'm simply putting >>together, >>from scratch, the sort of widgets I need to make things work. > > It depends how much you want your WM to do. Sorry, but I must make a correction here: I have no interest (at this time) in writing a Window Manager (WM) client for X11. The O'Reilly X11 Xlib book discusses WMs in detail, and includes the code for a rudementary WM implemented in Xlib. My interest lies elsewhere: specifically, in writing a Display Manager (DM) client for X11 in Xlib. A DM provides "a graphical login manager which starts a login session on an X server from the same or another computer." For this, I can find no basic example, nor any reasonably complete and simple "howto", so it gives me a reasonable challenge to learn X11 Xlib programming with. > I did it in pure Xlib and > implemented button and menu widgets (thats all thats really needed) from scratch > which frankly isn't too hard. But sure, if you want a WM thats actually useful > you'll need a proper toolkit. True. And, as my skills grow, I will move up to X11 toolkits and other X11 clients. I note, however, that most present-day toolkits present bindings in C++, and not C, thus ruling them out as far as my development projects are concerned. This leaves a very limited list of toolkits, with no middle ground. I could either code for one of the heritage toolkits (Athena, Motif, etc.) and have a very, shall we say, "antique" UI, or for one of the few modern toolkits that offer C bindings, and have an over-architected UI. ISTM that we've lost the middle ground, as far as C bindings are concerned. -- Lew Pitcher "In Skills, We Trust"
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