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Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards

From Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards
Date 2021-07-08 10:31 +0200
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References <sc5fi3$he1$1@gioia.aioe.org> <sc6cih$1bks$4@gioia.aioe.org>

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Am 08.07.21 um 10:21 schrieb Juha Nieminen:
> In comp.lang.c++ Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> wrote:
>> I have managed to find direct links to the official standard and they
>> are here:
>>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1336.pdf>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1256.pdf>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1124.pdf>
> 
> Note that something being directly available for download, even if it's
> hosted at the IP owners' own servers, doesn't make it somehow automatically
> legal to download if the documents are under a commercial license.
> Making something available without technical barriers is not in itself
> any sort of implicit free license.
> 
> (I don't know if those documents are commercial. Merely pointing out
> that fact.)
> 

I understand that the WG14 / ISO copyright situation can be somewhat
complicated (and in the past ISO expressed some dislike about the
existance of that WG14 website). On the other hand, what you write would
hold for any text, website, etc, which is kind of impractical (how do I
know then I am allowed to read your message that I'm replying to here?).

Anyway, those N documents are not meant to be hidden by WG14. There is a
list of them
(http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/wg14_document_log.htm),
which is linked from the WB14 website
(http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/).
AFAIK, it is disputed who own the copyright to the individual N
documents there, and it might even differ by legislation (in particular
there might be US vs. EU law differences).

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[ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 01:00 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 01:20 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2021-07-08 03:53 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 02:30 +0000
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-07 20:34 -0700
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 09:18 +0200
      Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-08 00:57 -0700
        Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 12:07 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2021-07-08 10:18 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-09 03:41 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 08:46 +0200
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-07-08 08:21 +0000
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2021-07-08 10:31 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2021-07-08 12:19 +0200
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2021-07-10 19:47 -0300

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