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Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards
Date 2021-07-08 08:46 +0200
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 08/07/2021 02:00, Real Troll wrote:
> I have managed to find direct links to the official standard and they
> are here:
> 
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1336.pdf>
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1256.pdf>
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1124.pdf>
> 
> I am not sure if there are any official standards after n1336.pdf.
> Perhaps there are or perhaps there aren't unless you pay for them. Let
> me know if there are any for free use.
> 

That's a useful list - thanks.

> Microsoft has defined what Open Standard Means:
> 
>> Let's look at what an open standard means: 'open' refers to it being
>> royalty-free, while 'standard' means a technology approved by
>> formalized committees that are open to participation by all interested
>> parties and operate on a consensus basis. _*An open standard is
>> publicly available*_, and developed, approved and maintained via a
>> collaborative and consensus driven process.
> 

As usual, Microsoft has a somewhat different definition from other
people...

"Open standard" usually means that the standard is /available/ to anyone
who wants it - but not necessarily for free.  There are a great many
open standards that are only available for a fee, or if you join the
relevant group.  "Open" in this context means that anyone can get the
standards - there are no restrictions by country, company, contract,
etc.  This also applies to the C and C++ standards, which are published
by ISO - anyone can get the standards, but you have to pay for them.
What is unusual (but /very/ nice) is that the ISO working groups here
publish their drafts at zero cost.

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[ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 01:00 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 01:20 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2021-07-08 03:53 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 02:30 +0000
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-07 20:34 -0700
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 09:18 +0200
      Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-08 00:57 -0700
        Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 12:07 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2021-07-08 10:18 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-09 03:41 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 08:46 +0200
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-07-08 08:21 +0000
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2021-07-08 10:31 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2021-07-08 12:19 +0200
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2021-07-10 19:47 -0300

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