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Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1

From Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1
Date 2021-06-19 08:55 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <sal413$i4f$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <sai57r$ilo$1@dont-email.me> <saimrc$4l8$1@dont-email.me> <sakijj$6qc$1@dont-email.me> <sal01o$mnh$1@dont-email.me> <190620211106427623%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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nospam graced us with on 6/19/2021 8:06 AM:
>>> What foundational changes would you like?
>>>
>> Well, I'll consider wishes are like fishes and dare to hope.
>>
>> 1. Bring back Aero, in all it's previous glory (transparency, 
>> skeuomorphic icons, rounded windows corners, transparency, &c.) I don't 
>> mind if they farm it out, as long as they open the architecture APIs 
>> that would allow 3rd parties to replicate it fully.
> 
> that's not really foundational, and the rounded corners are rumoured to
> be in win11.
> 
Agree to disagree. It was the desktop after all.

>> 2. Make changes that would allow Win7 users and 3rd party developers to 
>> create apps for its 30% cut store AND create the same programs access to 
>> the APIs neccessary to allow them to be sold without going through the 
>> 30% Microsoft tax.
> 
> that exists now, and it's not a tax either. there's significant benefit
> from the 30% cut.
> 
Now, yes. Win 11whatever, who knows.

>> 3. Provide less obscure access for power users rather than obfuscating 
>> them as they now do on Win10.
> 
> power users don't care if a setting is obscured. 
>
Agree to disagree. It's a hassle to go through many steps now where only 
a few were needed prior.

>> There are others but this would be enough for me to seriously consider 
>> upgrading.
>>
>>>> What I suspect is that they will make significant 
>>>> infrastructure changes that will put everything behind a pay wall, just 
>>>> like Apple, disallowing sideloading of non- Windows Store software.
>>> Apple haven't done anything like the sort. 
>>>
>> Yes, they have with iOS devices.
> 
> no they haven't.
> 
le sigh:
REF: 
https://www.zdnet.com/article/tim-cook-claims-sideloading-apps-would-destroy-security-and-privacy-of-ios/

[excerpt quote=\"
Tim Cook has claimed in an interview with Brut that if Apple was forced 
to allow sideloading of apps, as Android does, it would destroy security 
and privacy of iOS.
\" /]
> 
> what's wrong with webkit? 
> 
Other than the anti-competitive aspect of forcing all browser developers 
to use their competitor's web access engine? Do I really need to spell 
it out; especially considering the privacy history associated with both 
those companies.

-- 
Sailfish
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            Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-06-19 11:06 -0400
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                Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1 Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> - 2021-06-19 12:34 -0700
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