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Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1

From Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1
Date 2021-06-19 07:28 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <sakuts$cmi$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <180620211534309493%nospam@nospam.invalid> <saj0qu$jg$1@dont-email.me> <180620211716578319%nospam@nospam.invalid> <saj8mi$67m$1@dont-email.me> <saknqo$sf8$1@dont-email.me>

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Chris graced us with on 6/19/2021 5:27 AM:
> Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>> nospam graced us with on 6/18/2021 2:16 PM:
>>> In article <saj0qu$jg$1@dont-email.me>, Sailfish
>>> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Windows hasn't fundamentally changed since Windows 7. It's all just a 
>>>>>>>>> skinning exercise so that the vendors can sell more hardware which 
>>>>>>>>> supports the 'new' windows.
>>>>>>>> Actually, yes, and it still might happen since this is an early look-see 
>>>>>>>> at just the current GUI update direction and not the foundational 
>>>>>>>> changes. What I suspect is that they will make significant 
>>>>>>>> infrastructure changes that will put everything behind a pay wall, just 
>>>>>>>> like Apple, disallowing sideloading of non- Windows Store software.
>>>>>>> apple doesn't disallow non-store software and has stated on many
>>>>>>> occasions that they aren't going to do that. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on the other hand, microsoft tried that with windows 10s, but had to
>>>>>>> backpedal and call it a 'mode' of win10.
>>>>>> REF: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.zdnet.com/article/tim-cook-claims-sideloading-apps-would-destro
>>>>>> y-s
>>>>>> ecurity-and-privacy-of-ios/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [excerpt quote=\"
>>>>>> Tim Cook has claimed in an interview with Brut that if Apple was forced 
>>>>>> to allow sideloading of apps, as Android does, it would destroy security 
>>>>>> and privacy of iOS.
>>>>>> \" /]
>>>>> that's for the iphone/ipad, not the mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> the mac has always been able to run anything the user wants. recent
>>>>> versions of mac os will require the user to confirm unsigned apps and
>>>>> accept the risks, but that does not stop the user from running them if
>>>>> that's what they really want to do.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, as I mentioned above. As hard as it is to believe, Apple has 
>>>> treated it MacOS system side of the business like a red-headed stepchild 
>>>> once walled-garden iOS devices became their most profitable device offering.
>>> it's true that ios is the majority of their revenue, however, it's a
>>> myth that apple has ignored the mac or treated it as second rate
>>> citizen. in fact, mac sales have been increasing by quite a bit,
>>> especially over the last year. 
>>>
>> We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I've read too many credible 
>> past Mac-aligned articles where there has been lots of disappointment 
>> from the MacOS folks based on lackluster hardware and "meh" software 
>> updates.
> 
> You must have missed the Apple Silicon updates then. The new processors are
> an order of magnitude faster than previous generation intels with lower
> battery requirements. And apart from the butterfly keyboard the hardware
> has always been great. Apple has driven the improvement in Windows laptop
> quality. For a while MacBooks were the best Windows laptops. 
> 
> The software updates are "meh" mostly because Apple doesn't fuck around
> with stupid tiles or horrible UI changes. It's all relatively small
> increments along a very mature and stable path. 
> 
Actually, I had read that Apple had finally decided to pay more 
attention to its Mac line but that doesn't negate what I said about what 
that had done in the past and the effect it had on its iMac fanbois at 
the time.

-- 
Sailfish
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