Re: network setup

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: network setup
Date	2016-12-13 22:00 +0100
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 07:44:39PM +0000, Brian wrote:

[...]

> For someone who has been using Debian for many years the position you
> expound is understandable and viable to support [...]

> But remember new users; does it really matter to them? They have no
> personal history to point to. As you point out, the engineering
> advantages are unarguable [...]

I'm not going to argue too much, since "de gustibus non est disputandum",
as they say. But I'm a little concerned to see the innards of the
system to get less accessible, bit by bit, in the name of some
engineering advantages which only matter in an uncommon context
(pluggable Ethernet devices being such a case here).

In my eyes, the main asset of Free Software is that the end user
*can* study and hack it. Baroque engineering is a heavy debt piling
up against hackability, and should be considered in the cost analysis.

I understand that it is a trade-off, and that different folks will
see the sweet spot at different points.

regards
- -- tomás
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    Re: network setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-11 20:50 +0100
    Re: network setup Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-12-12 01:50 +0100
      Re: network setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-12 13:50 +0100
        Re: network setup Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-12-13 12:20 +0100
          Re: network setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-13 14:00 +0100
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      Re: network setup Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-12-13 12:10 +0100
        Re: network setup Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-12-13 15:50 +0100
      Re: network setup <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-12-13 14:20 +0100
        Re: network setup Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-12-13 14:40 +0100
          Re: network setup <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-12-13 14:50 +0100
            Re: network setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-13 20:50 +0100
              Re: network setup Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2016-12-13 21:00 +0100
                Re: network setup Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-12-13 22:10 +0100
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