Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

From	Jape Person <japers@comcast.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"
Date	2016-12-06 04:10 +0100
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On 12/04/2016 01:50 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 16:14:45 -0500, Jape Person wrote:
>
>> On 11/19/2016 02:47 PM, Brian wrote:
>>>
>>> You have this one definite requirement and will have to firm up what
>>> else you definitely want. I'll mention the HP OfficeJet Pro 8720
>>> All-in-One Printer. It is relatively inexpensive, deals in PCL 3 and
>>> has AirPrint. An interesting aspect of it is that it is claimed to be
>>> an IPP Everywhere printer, meaning you need no drivers on the machine
>>> you are printing from. But it is an inkjet.
>>>
>> Yes, thanks. I suppose I'll just have to go with an MFP that uses inkjet
>> instead of laser. It think it's curious that you can get a single function
>> Color LaserJet from HP that doesn't require the driver plugin. You can get
>> an OfficePro MFP which doesn't require the driver plugin. But you can't get
>> a single function scanner which doesn't require the driver plugin.
>>
>> I wanted a laser printer. I wanted a scanner. I didn't want an inkjet or the
>> driver plugin. There currently seems to be no way to accomplish this exact
>> set of specs. The closest I can come, I guess, is to buy a laser printer and
>> an inkjet MFP and just not use the inkjet printer portion of the MFP.
>>
>> Your suggestion of the 8720 or one of its close relatives is probably the
>> best I can do with HP. I appreciate your help on this, Brian.
>
> So, in the end, you went for a Brother MFC-9340CDW. Looks a nice machine
> but as was said in a previous mail of mine (resent to the list due to
> feline frollicking) this doesn't get you off square one if you use the
> Brother printer drivers. Ok, there are PCL6 and PostScript emulations on
> the device so a generic PPD (missing access to some of the printer's
> functionality) could be used. At about 350 GBP for the device though,
> I'd want my money's worth.
>
> Now for the good news. Your printer does AirPrint. An AirPrint printer
> has to accept data in the Apple Raster Format (URF) and CUPS 2.2.2 has
> support for sending Apple Raster to a printer. cups-browsed 1.12.0 has
> adjusted its CreateIPPPrinterQueues directive to take account of this:
>
>  http://bzr.linuxfoundation.org/loggerhead/openprinting/cups-filters/annotate/head:/utils/cups-browsed.conf.5
>
> Problem also solved for any HP AirPrint capable machines which uses a
> plugin.
>

Yup, the research I did led me to believe that I can do anything I need 
to do without the proprietary drivers. If I can't get scanning via FOSS 
drivers in Debian I can use the scanning function through my wife's 
Android devices. (At last the things will be useful! Tee-hee!)

The Brother was cheaper than any of the comparable HP MFCs that I found, 
and I decided that it was time for some experimentation.

One downside is the inability to upgrade firmware on the printer without 
a system running the Mac OS or Windows. I guess if I ever really need a 
firmware update I can borrow a Windows laptop from a neighbor for a few 
minutes.

Thank you for that link. I'm going to go through that to see if I can 
learn something!

Best,
JP

Thread

hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 02:40 +0100
  Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 12:50 +0100
    Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 19:00 +0100
  Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-11-19 15:40 +0100
    Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 17:00 +0100
      Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-11-19 17:40 +0100
        Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 18:40 +0100
        Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 19:30 +0100
          Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 21:10 +0100
            Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 22:40 +0100
              Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 21:00 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-21 00:00 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" "James P. Wallen" <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2016-11-21 00:20 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-11-23 12:30 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-23 13:00 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-11-23 15:10 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-24 19:30 +0100
            Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-24 21:50 +0100
      Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-19 18:10 +0100
        Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 18:50 +0100
      Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 19:20 +0100
        Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 20:50 +0100
          Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 22:30 +0100
            Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-04 20:00 +0100
              Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-06 04:10 +0100
    Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 19:10 +0100
      Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 23:30 +0100
  Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-03 19:20 +0100
    Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 20:20 +0100
      Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-03 21:20 +0100
        Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 12:50 +0100
          Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-12-04 16:00 +0100
            Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 16:50 +0100
            Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-06 04:00 +0100
              Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 00:50 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-07 02:50 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-12-07 09:00 +0100
                Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-07 16:20 +0100
      Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-03 21:30 +0100
        Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-03 21:40 +0100
          Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 00:40 +0100
            Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-06 04:10 +0100
              Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 06:40 +0100
        Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2016-12-04 02:00 +0100
          Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin" Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2016-12-04 06:40 +0100

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