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Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf?

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On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Wed 02-11-16 23:09:26, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> We've got a report where a fanotify daemon that implements permission checks
>> screws up and doesn't send a reply.  This then causes widespread hangs due to
>> fsnotify_mark_srcu read side lock being held and thus causing synchronize_srcu()
>> called from e.g. inotify_release()-> fsnotify_destroy_group()->
>> fsnotify_mark_destroy_list() to block.
>
> Yes. But if a program implementing permission checks does not reply, your
> system is likely hosed anyway. We can only try to somewhat limit the
> damage...
>

That was my initial thought as well, but at least with the sample code
Miklos sent
the only thing that gets hosed is the one process watching that one file.
You could think of a use case of fanotify being used to watch over files
in a specific user directory, where the damage on the entire system
should/could be limited. No?

>> Below program demonstrates the issue.  It should output a single line:
>>
>> close(inotify_fd): success
>>
>> Instead it outputs nothing, which means that close(inotify_fd) got blocked by
>> the waiting permission event.
>>
>> Wouldn't making the srcu per-group fix this?  Would that be too expensive?
>
> Per-group would be IMHO too expensive. You can have lots of groups and I'm
> not sure srcu would scale to that. Furthermore the SRCU protects the list
> of groups that need to get notification so it would not even be easily
> possible. Also Amir's solution is buggy - I'll comment on that as a reply
> to his patch. I'll try to find something to improve the situation but so
> far I have no good idea...
>

Yes, very much buggy indeed :/
Anyway, the reason I drafted it quickly was to highlight the fact that the
marks only need to live to the point of decision whether or not the event
should be sent to the group and afterwards, its sufficient to grab the
group reference, without having impact on the entire system.

Yet another possible ugly (but less buggy) solution would be
to iterate all marks under SRCU read protection.
If any group is about to block (either by suggested return value
EAGAIN or another
by using a new op should_handle_event_deferred), defer event handling to post
marks iteration, by keeping a few group references on stack.

But hopefully, you'll find some less ugly solution.

Amir.

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fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> - 2016-11-02 23:20 +0100
  Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 11:30 +0100
    Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2016-11-05 22:50 +0100
  Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2016-11-05 22:40 +0100
    Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 07:50 +0100
      Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2016-11-09 12:20 +0100
        Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 19:30 +0100
          Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2016-11-10 20:50 +0100
            Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 21:10 +0100
            Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> - 2016-11-10 21:50 +0100
              Re: fsnotify_mark_srcu wtf? Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 23:50 +0100

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