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Re: A minimalist network

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: A minimalist network
Date 2016-08-19 15:10 +0200
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 07:41:56AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

[...]

> As I had said in last paragraph of
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/08/msg00609.html :
> "Why would I be interested in ssh as both machines are sitting on my
> desk and _neither_ will be connected to the internet when ethernet
> connection is live?"

Because your newest IOT lightbulb[1] or other gadget[2] is spying on
you?

Of course you may have reasons to "go simple", especially on setup,
and/or under controlled conditions; especially if you're connecting
the two boxes via one cable as has been sugested in this (monster)
thread several times, you're entitled to be somewhat secure.

But dividing the world in "insecure outside, secure inside, and at
the perimeter, the firewall takes care of things" is a pretty
outdated way of thinking. Better use secure protocols inside your
network. You never know what your network printer is doing, there
beneath the desk.

[1] <https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/40397.html>
[2] <https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/08/18/2231244/smart-electrical-socket-leaks-your-email-address-can-launch-ddos-attacks>

Regards
- -- t
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A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 16:50 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 17:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 19:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 00:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 01:20 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-19 18:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 10:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 04:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:20 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-18 12:40 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 22:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 13:00 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 19:20 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:40 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 20:00 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network "der.hans" <deb-user@LuftHans.com> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 22:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 16:50 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 01:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 01:40 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:10 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 16:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 16:10 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-08-19 15:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:50 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 19:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 17:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 19:40 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 21:20 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Mike McClain <mike.junk@copper.net> - 2016-08-20 08:40 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-20 13:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-20 22:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 17:10 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 17:30 +0200
          RE: A minimalist network Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> - 2016-08-19 12:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:50 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 18:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-18 19:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 21:00 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-08-18 22:40 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:10 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:50 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-19 17:50 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200

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