RE: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

From	Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	RE: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces
Date	2016-05-17 17:20 +0200
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Hi Elimar,

>> On Tuesday 17 May 2016 09:08:55 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> 
>[...]
>> > In my opinion, a warning is in order ("this might not be doing what 
>> > you think it does"), but deprecated seems exaggerated to me.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > [1] Schocking Truth! Not everything seen on the Internet is true!
>> >
>> > -- tomás
>> 
>> About 4th or 5th down in that list of hits, this one labeled for 
>> debian, is a bit long winded  but finishes up recommending one edit 
>> his personal .bash-aliases file to contain this:
>> 
>> alias netrestart="sudo nohup sh -c 'invoke-rc.d networking stop; date; 
>> echo sleeping; sleep 2; echo waking; date; invoke-rc.d networking 
>> start'"
>> 
>> Is that simple?  Elegant and correct?  No, if the networking script 
>> was broken, its still broken!
>
> Again, I recommend to read [0] and [1].

I (re)read those just now, I think I read it before.
I still think this will change my interface name(s) when I swap a defective board for a new one as udev will see new interface(s).
The solution will probably still be the same, kill the 70-persistent-net.rules file and do a reboot / restart.

I have never seen a interface name change without a hardware change. And with udev enabled I have NEVER had the right change and needed to do some delete / edit of the udev 70-* file to get the "proper" interface name for my (firewall) scripts that use interface names.
So I don’t understand what the improvement is, there will probably be some in specific cases, just not in my case I think. Instead of rewriting all my scripts I will probably edit the 70-* udev file to create my familiar ethX names.

> [0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550240
> [1] https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/

Bonno Bloksma

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/etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 14:10 +0200
  Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Peter Ludikovsky <peter@ludikovsky.name> - 2016-05-17 14:20 +0200
    Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 14:40 +0200
  Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2016-05-17 14:20 +0200
    Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Mimiko <vbvbrj@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 14:40 +0200
      Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Gilles Mocellin <gilles.mocellin@nuagelibre.org> - 2016-05-17 19:20 +0200
        Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2016-05-17 19:30 +0200
          Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 13:40 +0200
            Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 16:00 +0200
            Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2016-05-18 16:00 +0200
              Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-18 16:10 +0200
            Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-18 17:00 +0200
              Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-18 17:10 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-18 17:20 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 17:40 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-18 18:00 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 18:10 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-05-19 17:20 +0200
              Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-05-18 17:40 +0200
              Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-18 18:00 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-18 18:50 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-18 19:40 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-19 00:40 +0200
        Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 21:00 +0200
          Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-17 21:40 +0200
    Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 15:00 +0200
    Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-17 15:10 +0200
      Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2016-05-17 15:50 +0200
        Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-17 15:50 +0200
      Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 16:00 +0200
        Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2016-05-17 16:40 +0200
          RE: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> - 2016-05-17 17:20 +0200
          Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 17:30 +0200
          Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 17:30 +0200
            Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-17 18:50 +0200
              Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 20:10 +0200
              Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-18 11:00 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-18 19:30 +0200
            Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2016-05-17 19:30 +0200
              Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-17 21:20 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-05-17 21:30 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-18 00:50 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 01:40 +0200
                Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-18 04:10 +0200
          Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in  /etc/network/interfaces David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-17 20:30 +0200
  Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Rodary Jacques <rodaryj@free.fr> - 2016-05-20 19:30 +0200
    Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 20:10 +0200

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