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Re: Posting picture files

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On Tue 03 May 2016 at 07:51:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> Brian composed on 2016-05-03 12:08 (UTC+0100):
> 
> >On Mon 02 May 2016 at 23:43:45 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> >>thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in
> >>the list posting rules that binary attachments are not to be expected unless
> >>of nominal size, thus can feel safe their disk space won't be wasted, and
> 
> >   Avoid sending large attachments.
> 
> >is the advice:
> 
> >   https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips
> says:
> 
> 	"Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB."

Please keep up at the back. :) That statement has been dealt with on
-user a day or so ago. It does not reflect reality on the lists today.

> The functional gist of the entirety of both URLs includes keeping
> submissions modest in size. Images attached virtually always violate that
> precept.

I do not know the size of the average screenshot but I can imagine it
would exceed what Listmaster allows. Listmaster also ensures only
modestly sized attachments sufficient for the list to function are sent
to the list.
 
> >Nothing about "binary". Nothing about "nominal".
> 
> Binary is functionally implied. When was the last time you saw any software
> user/help mailing list post arrive with an image attached that was not many
> times 10KiB (10KiB is very roughly the average size of a debian-user mailing
> list post), or an attachment that was not an image? IME it rarely happens.

When did I last see a modestly sized image on -user? Yesterday.

Non-image 400K attachments are regularly seen on some Debian lists.

> Nominal in the context used means modest, something that wouldn't burden the
> system by bloating an ordinary plain text email many orders of magnitude.

Burdening the system is a consideration but so is enabling the work via
the lists to be carried out. 
 
> >>internet bandwidth won't be wasted, on things a select few have interest in
> >>or will be opening. It's little different than the waste that is HTML
> 
> >Subscribing to a list means taking the rough with the smooth.
> 
> It does not mean liking abuse or never doing anything to dissuade abuse.

I hope you are not implying Listmaster likes, encourages or condones
abuse. :)

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  Re: Posting picture files Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-01 05:30 +0200
    Re: Posting picture files Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2016-05-02 12:20 +0200
      Re: Posting picture files Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-02 16:10 +0200
        Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 16:20 +0200
        Re: Posting picture files Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-03 01:40 +0200
          Re: Posting picture files Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 01:50 +0200
            Re: Posting picture files John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-05-03 02:10 +0200
              Re: Posting picture files Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-05-03 16:40 +0200
          Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 02:10 +0200
            Re: Posting picture files Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-03 05:20 +0200
              Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 11:10 +0200
              Re: Posting picture files "heqamilus@runbox.com" <heqamilus@runbox.com> - 2016-05-03 16:00 +0200
                Re: Posting picture files Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-03 21:50 +0200
                Re: Posting picture files cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-05-10 20:40 +0200
          Re: Posting picture files Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-05-03 05:50 +0200
            Re: Posting picture files Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-03 13:10 +0200
              Re: Posting picture files Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-05-03 14:00 +0200
                Re: Posting picture files Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-03 14:30 +0200
          Re: Posting picture files Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-05-04 00:10 +0200
  Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:30 +0200
    Re: Posting picture files Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-01 16:50 +0200
      Re: Posting picture files Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-05-01 17:10 +0200
        Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 17:20 +0200
        Re: Posting picture files Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-05-01 18:10 +0200
          Re: Posting picture files Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-05-02 03:00 +0200
          Re: Posting picture files Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-05-03 06:10 +0200
          Re: Posting picture files cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-05-10 20:40 +0200
            Re: Posting picture files Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-10 21:00 +0200
              Re: Posting picture files cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-05-13 14:30 +0200
  Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:40 +0200
    Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:50 +0200
      Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-01 19:00 +0200
        Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 19:40 +0200
          Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-02 03:40 +0200
        Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-05-01 21:20 +0200
        Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-02 08:50 +0200
          Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-02 09:30 +0200
          Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-02 13:00 +0200
  Re: Posting picture files Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2016-05-01 20:40 +0200

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