Re: Battery Powered Project

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject	Re: Battery Powered Project
Date	2021-01-14 14:26 +0000
Organization	A little, after lunch
Message-ID	<rtpka2$rjp$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 14/01/2021 13:46, Theo wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>          One cell and a DC-DC converter to give you a regulated supply,
>> monitor the cell so you can shut down (well) before there's too little to
>> run the converter.
> 
> Which is all very nice, but is not what the OP is doing.
> 
> They're monitoring *the input rail of the Pi*, because that's all the Pi
> hardware does.  You put 5V in, it tells you if it sags below some threshold.
> You don't get to put some other voltage in to test.  If you put in your raw
> cell voltage that will under- or over-volt the Pi and it'll either not work
> or fry[1].
> 
> If they want to monitor some other voltage, they'll have to start from
> scratch because none of what they're doing (hardware or software) will work.

and the point is that any regulated supply will simply die without 
warning, so they will have to

> 
> Theo
> 
> [1] the main SoC has some protection as it has its own voltage regulators,
> but USB-side things do use that 5V directly and you may fry it that way
> 


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Battery Powered Project Simple Simon <please.dontspa@me.com> - 2021-01-12 12:14 +0000
  Re: Battery Powered Project Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-12 12:40 +0000
    Re: Battery Powered Project Simple Simon <please.dontspa@me.com> - 2021-01-12 12:50 +0000
      Re: Battery Powered Project "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-12 15:15 +0100
      Re: Battery Powered Project Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2021-01-12 21:43 +0000
        Re: Battery Powered Project Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 09:40 +0000
        Re: Battery Powered Project Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 18:02 +0000
        Re: Battery Powered Project Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-13 22:04 +0000
          Re: Battery Powered Project Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2021-01-13 23:37 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-14 00:43 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 03:59 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:18 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 11:04 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:46 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 12:21 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 12:38 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-14 14:17 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:28 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-16 20:09 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-17 07:19 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-17 15:57 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-18 07:05 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-18 14:14 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project John Aldridge <jpsa@cantab.net> - 2021-01-17 17:52 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-14 12:56 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2021-01-14 13:46 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:26 +0000
          Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 03:46 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2021-01-14 09:23 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 11:04 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2021-01-14 17:48 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-18 17:07 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-18 20:33 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-21 20:36 +0000
  Battery Powered Project nospam.Vincent.Coen@f1.n250.z2.binkp.net (Vincent Coen) - 2021-01-12 14:35 +1300
  Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-12 16:40 +0000
    Re: Battery Powered Project The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:56 +0000
      Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-13 15:12 +0000
        Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-16 12:24 +0000
          Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-16 17:53 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-16 20:39 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-16 22:33 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-16 23:30 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-16 23:52 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-17 10:39 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-17 14:32 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-18 13:20 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-18 13:41 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-18 14:02 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-18 15:15 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-19 13:46 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-19 15:24 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-19 15:34 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-19 16:21 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-19 17:18 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-19 19:31 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-20 10:12 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-19 22:15 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-20 10:03 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-20 10:49 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2021-01-20 11:29 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-20 12:18 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-20 13:02 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-20 15:49 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-20 16:54 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-20 17:19 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-21 10:24 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-20 12:18 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-20 13:18 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2021-01-20 14:14 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-20 14:51 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-20 14:45 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-20 14:44 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-20 15:07 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-20 16:38 +0100
                Re: Battery Powered Project Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2021-01-20 15:45 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2021-01-21 10:07 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-21 12:30 +0100
                Re: Battery Powered Project druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2021-01-21 13:09 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-22 10:08 +0200
                Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-22 10:29 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-22 10:25 +0000
                Re: Battery Powered Project Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2021-01-19 17:03 +0100
                Re: Battery Powered Project A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-17 01:09 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2021-01-17 11:48 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-17 12:11 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-17 14:43 +0000
            Re: Battery Powered Project Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2021-01-17 11:52 +0000
              Re: Battery Powered Project Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-01-17 13:53 +0000

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