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Re: Endless wrangling

From The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Endless wrangling
Date 2021-01-08 11:37 -0800
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On 01/08/2021 05:23 AM, Mayayana wrote:
> "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
>
> | These are Darwinistic processes. You can't change that without clear
> | rules that are enforced by independent moderators.
>
>    I don't think that's the problem. Usenet has existed for a
> very long time. I still go to computer-related groups. It's
> just people discussing. They do't need to be policed like
> children.

I had thought that about this group.  Easy enough to recognize the crap 
and ignore it, but apparently some people find that difficult.  I 
confess I participated with gusto in a flame war long ago, but I grew 
out of it.

>    What's changed is the shift from citizen to consumer;
> in the wider culture, generally, and as a profit strategy
> in computing. People don't feel like citizens online. And
> increasingly people are simply not raised to be considerate
> adults.

Otherwise known as "dumbing down".  According to common knowledge now, 
it's probably Trump's fault.

>     I go to Reddit for discussions I'm interested in. Not because
> I like it but because it's busy. Why is it so busy? Because
> people can up-vote and down-vote and win little cartoon
> awards to festoon their posts. People can cry to
> the moderators if they feel insulted. People can generally
> be self-indulgent while being protected by the confines
> of the playpen. It's not an adult discussion for most
> of them. It's a child's gossip circle, where millennials and
> gen-Zers talk about feeling "safe" in a "safe space", and
> enact what they imagine community might be, had they
> ever experienced anything like community.

I wonder if there's an abrupt age cutoff.  My daughter says that my 
education was better than hers, which was in turn better than HER 
children's.  All California public schools, and her children lived in a 
far more affluent community than mine or hers.  I blame the unions for 
this.  For real.

>    Compared to that, Usenet feels like crawling out of your
> crib without a helmet. Too dangerous. And you don't get
> any points for it!

At some point people seem to have forgotten that "Sticks and stones may 
break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

I do miss the happy-face stickers, though...


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "Sure, everyone's in favor of saving Hitler's brain, but when
     you put it into the body of a great white shark, suddenly
     you're a madman."                                 --Futurama

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Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 13:19 -0800
  Re: Endless wrangling VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-07 16:47 -0600
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 15:42 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 15:56 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 16:14 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 22:43 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 22:42 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 15:33 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-08 07:41 -0700
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 16:38 +0100
                Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:58 -0700
            Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 09:53 -0700
              Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-08 12:04 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 14:23 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-10 13:37 -0600
                Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-10 13:48 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling philo@novabbs.i2p (philo) - 2021-01-10 21:10 +0000
                Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-11 06:51 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-11 08:04 -0600
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 22:40 +0100
                Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 16:00 -0700
              Re: Endless wrangling Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-08 22:38 +0000
                Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 16:21 -0700
            Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 09:22 -0800
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 22:47 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:39 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-07 23:42 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2021-01-08 08:10 +0100
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 23:22 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-08 08:23 -0500
      Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:37 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling KenW                                        <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2021-01-08 13:13 -0700
  Re: Endless wrangling Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 14:33 +0000
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:20 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 11:03 +0000
        Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 10:41 -0800
  Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 09:08 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 13:31 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 22:54 +0100
        Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 14:04 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 23:20 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-11 16:34 +0000
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 23:25 +0100
        Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 15:47 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 01:31 +0000
          Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-09 08:57 -0800
            Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 21:15 +0000
            Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-09 23:36 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-09 20:52 -0800
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-10 12:36 +0100
          Re: Endless wrangling Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2021-01-10 09:36 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 06:39 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 01:22 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 12:48 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 20:37 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-08 23:55 -0600
      Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 06:44 +0000
      Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-09 08:45 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 21:20 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 01:29 +0000
    Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 03:34 +0000
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 21:37 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 06:46 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2021-01-11 21:51 +0100
    Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-11 14:05 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 23:26 +0100
      Re: Endless wrangling Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2021-01-12 03:47 +0100
      Re: Endless wrangling Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-12 13:19 +0000
        Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-12 08:27 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-12 19:02 +0000
          Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 20:24 -0800

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